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At least four shot at Sikh Temple, SWAT team helps people out (Oak Creek WI)
Milkwaukee Wisconsin JS Online ^ | August 5, 2012 | Mike Johnson

Posted on 08/05/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Pinkbell

Edited on 08/05/2012 10:46:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At least four people were shot just after 10 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, and a police SWAT team entered the building before noon and brought uninjured people out of the building at 7512 S. Howell Ave.

Among those who were shot was the president of the temple.

People were in the temple as early as 6:30 a.m. Sunday and many more were arriving for a service that was to begin about 11:30 a.m.

There were reports that children were taken to the building's basement after shots were fired.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; domesticterrorism; faithandphilosophy; oakcreek; racine; shooting; sikh; sikhtempleshooting; temple; wademichaelpage; wadepage; wisconsin
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To: dalebert

Obammy did his grip and grin and fake tears in Colorado...but his “active” participation in the investigation from the git go, I think did not happen because they didnt think their narrative would be so quickly dismissed by the investigative minds on the internet! Their narrative started falling apart REAL fast in that case!


621 posted on 08/05/2012 8:11:55 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET

Thing is I would think they would have police records that should be easy to check
Like I said they must be hurting for decent recruits which is not a good thing


622 posted on 08/05/2012 8:12:57 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

Not everyone in a hate group has a police record, my friend.


623 posted on 08/05/2012 8:13:55 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: dalebert

Do what? Have a pow-wow at the WH? He did. He cancelled campaigning and flew to DC to meet with his Nat Sec etc people.


624 posted on 08/05/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: penelopesire

That is world wide and not in this country so far anyway
I don’t know what the ODDs are but I don’t think bending over to postulate facts that are unknown at this point serves any purpose


625 posted on 08/05/2012 8:18:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: James C. Bennett

OK, good to know. But my original skepticism stands. I’ll wait until the actual shooter is in custody, rather than take the first reports as gospel.


626 posted on 08/05/2012 8:21:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: uncbob

Via PATCH.com:

More details from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:

A source familiar with the investigation said the shooter was a white male in his 40s who had been discharged from the Army. . . .
Kurt Weins said he rented the upper flat of the duplex authorities were searching to a single man in his 40s about month ago. Weins lives across the street from the duplex.
Weins said he had just been interviewed by law enforcement authorities and said he was uncomfortable providing much detail. However, he said, he was surprised by the attention his tenant has attracted.
“I had him checked out and he definitely checked out,” Weins said. “The cops told me they don’t want me to say nothing right now.”

The Los Angeles Times is reporting that it was the gunman’s tattoos that caused the FBI to declare this a “domestic terrorism” case. What kind of tattoos? We don’t know yet.


627 posted on 08/05/2012 8:23:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: uncbob

Look..many of us are news junkies and we like to keep an eye on these kinds of stories because the left is famous for trying to blame the tea party and conservatives every time something like this happens. They are already doing it all over the Internet. Not sure why it bothers you that we are standing guard so to speak and speculating a bit.


628 posted on 08/05/2012 8:24:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: MagUSNRET
Obammy did his grip and grin and fake tears in Colorado...

Bill n Hill did the same after Columbine. Use the blood for face time.

A friend, who lost one of his sons in that library, decided he needed to wash his car that day.

629 posted on 08/05/2012 8:27:10 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MagUSNRET
Colleen Henry said police told her FBI, ATF have left the Cudahy home for the evening. Investigators will return in the morning to go through the home.

Read more: http://livewire.wisn.com/Event/Oak_Creek_Temple_Shooting

Interview with brother of temple leader: Stresses Sikh's are not Muslims - blames media for the hate. (Really hard to understand so missed his reasoning.)

630 posted on 08/05/2012 8:27:48 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

I woulod be inclined to blame the media as well! The average person isnt a news junkie like we are....so someone tuning in, will see the IDIOTS they call reporters...and there ya go!
Im guessing most of the idiot reporters dont know the difference, unless someone draws them a picture!


631 posted on 08/05/2012 8:31:08 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: dfwgator; penelopesire

It is suspected that The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem had a role in developing the Final Solution of the ‘Jewish Problem’. He had an office close to Nazi headquarters in Berlin, and sat in on meetings all during the war. He must have thought he’d died and gone to heaven, being able to arrange for the killing of so many Jews.


632 posted on 08/05/2012 8:32:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: MagUSNRET
Living in NM, we are very familiar with Sikh's as they have an Ashram in Espanola, though most up there are Anglo's vs. Sikhs from India. Interesting enough, in 1980 they founded one of America's largest security companies, AKAL Security. From Wikipedia,

Akal Security, Inc. is a security company which has federal contracts to guard immigration detention centers, federal courthouses, NASA facilities, federal buildings in Washington, D.C., and numerous embassies under construction. Akal Security and a subsidiary company, Coastal International Security, have received over $1 billion in federal security contracts.

The Sikh's are generally peaceful people but having been the attacked over history, in recent years by Muslims in Punjab, they have organized to defend themselves.

633 posted on 08/05/2012 8:54:43 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The Sikh temple had a huge sign that said “Sikh Temple”. Anyone who hates Mozlems knows that Mozlems have mosques, not temples.


634 posted on 08/05/2012 8:57:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MagUSNRET

WISN is the ABC affiliate and now they are quoting the ABC from FBI sources that the killer was a “white supremacist” or “skinhead.” The interview with the brother of the temple leader was replayed and he blames assault weapons and the media both. Of course, he is very distraught and angry right now.


635 posted on 08/05/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

That is very interesting info. Bookmarking here. Goodnight all! Enjoyed sleuthing,speculating and chatting with you all.

May God keep the families of the victims in his loving care and may the victims rest in eternal peace.


636 posted on 08/05/2012 9:03:57 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: CedarDave

I would want more proof that the fellow is a “White Supremist”...merely saying “skinhead” doesnt do it for me, since in my neck of the woods, ANY bald fella is often called a “skinhead” meaning nothing more than BALD....and as much as I hate the media, I would not be surprised if they HEARD “Bald” and extrapolated “skinhead”....that is UNTIL I hear more about his alleged Tatoos etc....
ALL too often, the first reports are WAY off base and wrong.


637 posted on 08/05/2012 9:10:01 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: struggle

>>I used to live next door to a sikh in Mississippi. He would down a bottle of Johnny Walker black every night. He didn’t have the special underwear or carry a knife, but he NEVER shaved his face

I’m pretty sure alcohol is not banned in the Sikh religion - could be wrong though. But, yeah, most of us pick and choose to some degree which religious laws we follow and which we overlook. Did he cut his hair? Can’t see why he would do that and not facial hair.


638 posted on 08/05/2012 9:16:12 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Sikh rules are no intoxication. So that would mean no alcohol. Probably not everyone follows the rules, just as in every religion not everyone follows.


639 posted on 08/05/2012 9:31:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Pinkbell
Now here is some excellent reporting by the Los Angeles Times...

A federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media refused to say whether the gunman was thought to belong to a hate group or some other violent group because the investigation was still unfolding.
640 posted on 08/06/2012 3:34:48 AM PDT by wkg
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