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To: vmivol00
Natural Born Citizenship IS Citizenship at Birth or Birthright Citizenship.

There are two forms of Citizenship in the United States:

Natural Born
Naturalized

You have absolutely no legal case to argue otherwise.

Nobody of any importance or authority agrees with you.

Very, very few people of any caliber agree with you.

132 posted on 07/31/2012 7:16:00 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Minor v Happersett was after the 14th Amendment. If citizenship at birth was the same thing as natural born citizenship, then why did the court in Minor v Happersett even mention the citizenship of the parents in regard to natural born citizenship, since the 14th Amendment when defining citizenship-at-birth made no mention of parents’ citizenship? Where did the Supreme Court get the idea that parents’ citizenship had any relevance to natural born citizenship, when location of birth was all that mattered to the 14th Amendment’s mandate regarding citizenship at birth?

Why didn’t the court simply cite the 14th Amendment for determining the definition of natural born citizenship? Why DID they refer to something not in the 14th Amendment?


136 posted on 07/31/2012 7:24:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Kansas58

Haha ha. Only people of “importance” have this issue “right”?...ha ha ha

That’s when you know you are winning the argument....when you have resort to saying no one of “importance” agrees with you! Ha ha. I’m guessing Zero and the legions of folks willing to look the other way are people of “importance”. Ha ha.

The condescension is a nice touch. Ha ha. I guess us “low caliber” folk will just shirk away. Ha ha

Clearly the founding fathers rejected your claim.

“Hamilton’s suggested presidential citizenship eligibility requirement was that a Citizen simply had to be ‘born a Citizen’ of the USA, i.e., a Citizen by Birth. But that citizenship status was overwhelmingly rejected by the framers as insufficient. Instead of allowing any person “born a citizen” to be President and Commander of the military, the framers chose to adopt the more stringent requirement recommended by John Jay, i.e., requiring the Citizen to be a “natural born Citizen“, to block any chance of future Presidents owing allegiance to other foreign nations or claims on their allegiance at birth from becoming President and Commander of the Military.. Therefore, the President of the United States must be a “natural born citizen” with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance to the United States at birth.”


138 posted on 07/31/2012 7:25:52 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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