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To: Wonder Warthog; wintertime
So, let me ask....at that time were you about to retire??

I wasn't ready to retire, I was working at a medium sized machine shop doing engineering work. I got tired of clocking in at 7 am having the first argument begin at 7:10 and continuing until 2 hours after I was supposed to clock out.

I had been teaching Martial arts and coaching a local archery team. a number of people told me I had good teaching ability so I looked into it. I needed 5 courses beyond my Dual major Bachelors + student teaching. I took these at the Masters level 3 nights a week and was done in a little over a year with a 3.98 GPA.

But you miss the point....the system needs to be changed to actually ENCOURAGE people with high technical skills into the system, instead of setting up roadblocks. You're right.....people who are retiring won't put up with the bullshit. But they shouldn't have to.

So get involved and change it. I am certain that you are familiar with Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to exist in the world is for good men (and women) to do nothing. This is why I get all over wintertime, he/ she just sits around and whines and whines, and did I mention whines?

Don't bother. Teaching is something I "might" enjoy, and I a more than well qualified to do so, and the students would likely benefit from my experience, but fighting the "ed biz bureaucrats" isn't worth it at my age. But again....THAT'S THE POINT.

Then look into teaching at the Community college level. I do it one semester a year, but I have to warn you, some of the adults are much worse than the kids. I had one student last year that would show up just as I finished giving the lesson/ demonstration for the day and expect a private lesson. After the third time in a row i told him that if he couldn't show up on time I couldn't give him private lessons. He told me he was going to the dean, I told him that was great idea and make sure he spelled my name right.

73 posted on 07/29/2012 6:55:59 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga
Again, government socialist-entitlement schooling is godless socialism.

Socialism can't be fixed.

And...Since it is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral school regardless of which faction of political bullies is running the socialist schools these schools will always be a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination for the students forced to use them and the taxpayer forced to support the government socialist school's NON-neutral religious worldview.

If it is an abomination for leftists to force their godless worldview on the nation's children, it is equally offensive for conservatives to **force** ( using the threat of armed police action) on other people's children.

Solution: Begin the process of privatization.

There is only one solution: Begin the process of privatizing all K-12 education. Anything other than this hurts the children and our nation.

All of the above is a statement of fact. It is impossible for you to read the state of my heart with regard to hate or love. Hopefully, in your classroom, you refrain from armchair speculative psychology.

74 posted on 07/29/2012 7:12:25 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga
Again, government socialist-entitlement schooling is godless socialism.

Socialism can't be fixed.

And...Since it is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral school regardless of which faction of political bullies is running the socialist schools these schools will always be a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination for the students forced to use them and the taxpayer forced to support the government socialist school's NON-neutral religious worldview.

If it is an abomination for leftists to force their godless worldview on the nation's children, it is equally offensive for conservatives to **force** ( using the threat of armed police action) on other people's children.

Solution: Begin the process of privatization.

There is only one solution: Begin the process of privatizing all K-12 education. Anything other than this hurts the children and our nation.

All of the above is a statement of fact. It is impossible for you to read the state of my heart with regard to hate or love. Hopefully, in your classroom, you refrain from armchair speculative psychology.

75 posted on 07/29/2012 7:13:09 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga
"So get involved and change it. I am certain that you are familiar with Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to exist in the world is for good men (and women) to do nothing. This is why I get all over wintertime, he/ she just sits around and whines and whines, and did I mention whines?

Actually, my game plan is to physically relocate to one of those more enlightened states that "do" have a correct orientation/accreditation plan in place. I suspect more often than not, those are also "more conservative" states, given that they are successfully "bucking" the "ed machine".

I don't really have any interest in teaching at a CC. Middle school/high school is more of interest.

79 posted on 07/30/2012 3:25:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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