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To: wintertime
"Government schools are ludicrous because they are godless socialist-entitlements. One of the predictable outcomes of socialism is ludicrous policies and practices."

I can't agree.

Once upon a time, public education worked VERY well in this country, so it is not possible to legitimately broadly castigate "government schools" as the source of the problem.

IMO, it has way more to do with which level of government is in charge. When the local community built the schools, hired the teachers, and paid their salaries, the system worked. But as higher and higher levels of government got involved and usurped control, things got progressively worse.

THE highest level that should control the schools is county, or maybe the local PTA for a specific school. Or perhaps a "school district" between those two levels.

Give'em the power to hire and fire teachers and staff, and I'd bet things would change for the better in a hurry.

68 posted on 07/29/2012 4:31:04 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
At first Obamacare won't be that bad. The reason will be due to the values of the workers trained in the old system. It will take full generation or two for the true horror of socialized medicine to manifest itself. They we will hear comments like your, only slightly modified. They will say:

“Once upon a time, socialized medicine worked VERY well in this country, so it is not possible to legitimately broadly castigate “government medicine” as the source of the problem.”

Fundamentally our government owned and run schools are a single-payer, compulsory funded, compulsory use, socialist-entitlement! If they **seemed** to function somewhat well in the past it was due to the values of the teachers and principals in the system. For example, my father was born in 1913. He grew up with his parents in his grandparents home. His grandfather served in the Civil War. Up until the 1960 and early 70s when this generation of teachers still had close contact with the values of those Americans who literally built the American Industrial Revolution and broke the sod of this land.

Just as government owned and run socialist-entitlement K-12 schooling is a mess due to its foundation of socialism, so we will eventually see the same in socialized medicine.

I will address “local (socialist) control” in another post.

69 posted on 07/29/2012 5:04:15 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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