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To: wintertime
If our Founding Fathers were to be resurrected today they would be **HORRIFIED** to see how we treat children in the common, prison-like, government, socialist-entitlement school!

They would be much more horrified at the behavior of the kids outside of school and their parents all the time.

When I taught, there was only one door the kids could come in and it was guarded by a city policeman. Why? To keep armed kids (5th to 12th grade) and armed adult drug dealers from coming in. Some got in anyway. That was the only exit during the day, as well. This was illegal since the fire doors were locked. The fire dept. did not enforce it. Why? If the doors (many) were unguarded, the kids would pop the doors open and let anyone in who wanted to come in.

Not all public schools are that way. Where I live, the kids are pretty much college bound and the parents are involved, so the craziness of the big city schools is not needed.

While in their prison-like “schools” all of their First Amendment Rights are either completely crushed or severely regulated and suppressed by government bureaucrats. Then, when they manifest prison social pathology the clueless government teachers blame the parents, the kids, taxpayers, legislators, ....everyone but themselves for cooperating for a system that crushes the spirit.

Uh, the teachers in the city schools I taught at were generally very good and some even excellent. Put them in a decent school and they would rock.

What ruined the kids was the government stupidity that helped ruin the kids' parents with their ignorant welfare system.

58 posted on 07/29/2012 1:59:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Yep! Blame the parents and kids. ( yawn) From a government teacher? Typical!

So?....What godless entity taught the parents to think and reason godlessly?.

Answer: The godless government schools, of course!

And you are complaining? What would any rational person expect? Our Founding Father would immediately see the source of the problem. Godless education in socialist-entitlement schools yields a population of godless barbarians and feral children.

There are excellent government teachers out there. They are the teachers who are taking every possible opportunity to warn parent to remove their children from the godless socialist-entitlement indoctrination pits, and to work to shut them all down...permanently!


63 posted on 07/29/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Right Wing Assault

Uh, the teachers in the city schools I taught at were generally very good and some even excellent.
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Good and excellent teachers would never force children to think and reason godlessly, and all children who attend any government school must. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

Good and excellent teachers would never support such a godless and socialist-entitlement system that forces taxpayers ( under the threat of armed police and court action ) to pay for such an abomination.

No good and excellent teacher would ever seek a job in such a system or work to support and establish its policies. Good and excellent teachers are working to tear down this monstrosity and permanently close the doors.


64 posted on 07/29/2012 3:22:05 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Right Wing Assault
What ruined the kids was the government stupidity that helped ruin the kids’ parents with their ignorant welfare system.

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Government schooling is WELFARE! It is a single payer, **compulsory**, socialist-entitlement!!!

Any child who attends one of the government's socialist-entitlement K-12 schools risks learning that any voting mob powerful enough to give them tuition-free schooling is powerful enough to give them **LOTS*** of “free” stuff!

Geeze!....And, you wonder why their parents are comfortable taking welfare? Really? Why shouldn't they be? They spent 13 or more years learning to be comfortable accepting socialism in government socialist-entitlement schools!

Is a “duh” needed here?

65 posted on 07/29/2012 3:26:13 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Right Wing Assault; wintertime
Thank you for you kind an rational approach. Wintertime has had a very negative experience with public schools and now wants everyone to hate them, in spite of the fact that he/she used them when it was convenient.

If you would like more information about wintertime send me a private message and I will be glad to fill you in.

72 posted on 07/29/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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