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To: metmom; wintertime; BobL
“Public schools” in the days of the Founding Fathers were locally and parentally funded and CONTROLLED establishments.

They were not the massive, out of control, useless juggernaut that the Department of Education has become and turned schools into. In those days, they actually EDUCATED the children; they left school literate, not brainwashed.

I have been more than reasonable and patient with all of you. I am your strongest supporter. I favor an "All of the above" approach. Vouchers, Home schooling, Private school, magnet schools, Core schools, vocational schools, religious based schools.

I am the one screaming that competition breeds quality. And what do i get for my trouble: Wintertime's thinly veiled insults of "A professional educator would never....", relentless attacks besmirching my character and my profession, a complete lack of even the most basics of courtesies.

BobL being convinced that I am a woman in spite of the fact that I sent him a link to an article I wrote with a picture of my self and wintertime telling him I was a male.

While your comments have not been nearly as nasty, they do get tiresome.

I have said on numerous occasions: There are two ways that change occurs, evolution and revolution, the difference is that with evolution there is less blood shed and fewer bodies in the street.

I am scheduled to have a meeting today with Central office for me to take over the operation of our after school GED program for our county. I am doing this with the understanding that we have a more stringent attendance and achievement policy. This will require a three sided partnership between the school system, the parents, and the students.

This is a no cost to the student, program for students that have already dropped out or have requested to be dropped from the rolls.

Is the best solution, I don't know, but I do know it beats the heck of of these kids having nothing to show or limited education.

Now I am telling you this in spite of the fact that ole wintertime will scream that it is not nearly enough and that the parents should be home schooling, and I am a useful idiot, or whatever her insult of choice is this week. I am not looking for commendations or anything except for you ALL to realize that some of us are actually trying to make a difference from the inside and that a little kindness goes a long way.

Make sure you understand something wintertime and the rest of the fringe kook are not just doing your cause no good, they are actually doing it harm.

So feel free to prove me right and make some snotty condescending comments about over paid under worked teachers and administrators. But just once I would like to be wrong, just once.

139 posted on 08/02/2012 4:18:37 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga; wintertime

“There are two ways that change occurs, evolution and revolution, the difference is that with evolution there is less blood shed and fewer bodies in the street.”

Unfortunately, when evolution DOESN’T HAPPEN, then revolution is the only option. We, conservatives, would all love to see government schools wither on the vine and just be a bad memory for taking this country from educational excellence to the Ash Heap of Education, measured world-wide (you should be familiar with that terminology, from Ed School). But the entrenched interests will not let that happen. So they continue to pile on, and just make things worse and worse.

For example, as far as I know, there is NOT A SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT where PARENTS asked for their (somewhat) traditional math education to be jettisoned for Everyday Math, yet it has happened in probably thousands of districts. Just type-in “Everyday Math Sucks” into Google, and you’ll see that.

AGAIN, parents DID NOT ask for Everyday Math but they paid their taxes and then had that thrown at them.

So when you come yelling at parents for not being more proactive - perhaps you might consider that when you gals constantly beat down parents with crap like this, some of us get a bit upset - and it’s hard not to blame them for giving up.


140 posted on 08/02/2012 4:57:16 AM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: verga; wintertime; BobL; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; ...

Don’t even bother whining about other’s attitudes as long as you have that tagline up. Talk about thinly veiled comments. There is no doubt that your tagline more than implies that all homeschoolers are cultists and fringe kooks.

You are not the epitome of kindness and courtesy yourself.

Losse the tagline and you might have some reason to expect reasonable discourse. Keep it and you are just instigating, doing the very thing you’re complaining about.


143 posted on 08/02/2012 11:11:01 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: verga; wintertime; BobL

Losse = lose

Sorry about that. Typing on an iPad does not contribute well to error free posting.


144 posted on 08/02/2012 11:15:01 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: verga
Now I am telling you this in spite of the fact that ole wintertime will scream that it is not nearly enough and that the parents should be home schooling, and I am a useful idiot, or whatever her insult of choice is this week.

I strive very hard to be general in comments about our nation's system of government owned and run godless and socialist-entitlement schooling.

I am not looking for commendations or anything except for you ALL to realize that some of us are actually trying to make a difference from the inside and that a little kindness goes a long way.

In a fully privatized system of schooling we would likely have far fewer students in need of adult education. Rather than having government teachers offering challenges to take their difficult students off their hands, we would have schools that would, instead, **welcome** hard to educate children. Why do I believe that? Reason: Look at the New York Times advertising section for summer camps. There are private summer camps for even the sickest and most difficult children imaginable and they are welcomed and loved.

166 posted on 08/02/2012 4:44:48 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga
that the parents should be home schooling
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I have repeated posted that not all parents should homeschool even though it is the best and most natural way to rear a child to secure and satisfying adulthood. There are parents who are too stupid, too mentally ill, too materialistic, too self-centered, too selfish, too ill-educated, too sick, too poor, too distracted, etc,. to homeschool. These children will need to be institutionalized for their less than ideal schooling.

172 posted on 08/02/2012 5:01:22 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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