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To: BfloGuy
Re:"I'll give you this. You are honest about aiding and abetting the country that has engaged in economic war with us. Marx would be proud."

What a crap reply. What is it about individual freedom that you don't like or trust? Why do you want government to dictate how we are allowed to use our property?


So the truth hurts.

We've been through this before. Your posts conflate Free Trade as it exists today with some version in your head that makes no accommodate for ethics or patriotism. Marx advocated free trade (free movement of capital and labor across national borders devoid of ethics and patriotism) as a way to speed up global Marxism. It sounds like you and Marx agree.

You have admitted you have no problem with trading with a country that has engaged in economic war on the US because you were "not born an economic slave to my countrymen.".

While our economic problems are partially the result of heavy corporate and capital taxation, massive federal deficit-spending, over-regulation of business, and the Fed’s half-century policy of inflation, they are also the result of free trade as currently described and practiced. Note this includes flooding the country with illegals and guest workers.

In addition note the large global corporations have no problem with regulation; it is a great way to suppress competition. In fact the readily volunteer their expertise to help write said regulations.

Once again you prove Yuri was prescient.
471 posted on 08/05/2012 7:26:21 AM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus
So the truth hurts

I have no idea what you mean by that. You protectionists want to put the burden of the trade deficit on the citizens rather than the government. You acknowledge all its bad policies, but don't know enough about economics to understand that trade is always and everywhere beneficial under a stable currency and an honest political system.

Note this includes flooding the country with illegals and guest workers.

That is not part of free trade as I see it.

You have admitted you have no problem with trading with a country that has engaged in economic war on the US because you were "not born an economic slave to my countrymen.".

What the heck is "economic war?" Cheaper prices? That's not war; it's competition. And the joke there is that China makes its people poorer and us richer by selling us stuff at cheap prices.

You will focus on industries lost by that competition. I continue to focus on the reasons why the capital freed up isn't reinvested here.

In addition note the large global corporations have no problem with regulation; it is a great way to suppress competition. In fact the readily volunteer their expertise to help write said regulations.

That is, of course, true. Large corporations can bear the expense of those regulations and watch their smaller competitors go out of business. Axe the regulations -- perhaps, we agree on that.

You, and others, seem to want to take me to task for advocating a theoretical free trade that doesn't exist. What's wrong with that? The current system is just one of piling up negotiations, regulations, and crony deals.

Our government calls the current system "Free Trade," but it isn't. My version would not contain quotas, carve-outs, or protected friends industries.

472 posted on 08/05/2012 2:43:43 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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