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Mormons on Cusp of New Powerful Era
The Hill ^ | July 23, 2012 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 07/23/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: KevinDavis

When addressing ‘all’ that should be jackasses, jackass is singular.


81 posted on 07/23/2012 12:09:06 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: alicewonders
Ok. A valid point, there is also validity to people's points of view that they having vowed to God to not support a promoter of abortion or to the country to not vote for a man who has promoted big government, homosexual agendas, gun grabs, government mandates, man made global warming, supporter of the WTC mosque, higher taxes, big government........
82 posted on 07/23/2012 12:15:56 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; colorcountry; P-Marlowe; reaganaut; SENTINEL; SZonian; svcw
Gee, I guess its back to the drawing board right?

You can only hope.

I personally sat in the pew in mormon churches and heard leaders speak the same words "“What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53) as did other former mormon FReepers. The fact that the mormon church has been attempting to scrub its early history of the racist, anti-Christian rhetoric that was ongoing through the 1970s is well known.

I guess it's back to the "official" mormon propaganda sites for you, right?

83 posted on 07/23/2012 12:24:22 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: svcw
Ok. A valid point, there is also validity to people's points of view that they having vowed to God to not support a promoter of abortion or to the country to not vote for a man who has promoted big government, homosexual agendas, gun grabs, government mandates, man made global warming, supporter of the WTC mosque, higher taxes, big government........

You have a different point of view than I do - but I have prayed unceasingly for guidance about this & I am convinced that GOD does not want us to stand back and let Obama win(who I believe - if he is not the anti-christ - is a minion of the anti-christ and Satan himself).

84 posted on 07/23/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by alicewonders (I like the GOP Briefing Room for rational adult debate.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Will someone please explain why having a Mormon, any Mormon, as president is worse then having Obama for another four years?
85 posted on 07/23/2012 12:32:55 PM PDT by a22freeman
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To: alicewonders

Having differing points of view is what makes FR a great place to be, sometimes.

However, excoriating FReepers through the use of vile and demeaning language solely because they have a different pov should never be accepted or even supported on FR.

This is where I part ways with certain elements on FR. Civility should rule the day, yet more and more, FR is turning into a cage match where just about anything goes.


86 posted on 07/23/2012 12:49:39 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; alicewonders
CAIR to reply to my post about Obama's comments about Muslims/Islam/Sharia???

Perhaps you should CAIR to investigate the links between mormons and muslims.

The Muslim Mormon Connection

http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_muslim_mormon_connection

Mormons, Muslims break the fast in Southern California

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/17754/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California?s_cid=newsline

"At the iftars, both Muslim and LDS leaders spoke at a brief service, after which the Muslims participated in evening prayers. Following the evening prayer, the groups met together for a meal, provided by the Muslims. There were members of other faiths at each of the dinners also, along with city officials.

In keeping with Muslim tradition, the call to prayer occurred at the time that the sun set that evening. Participants then broke their fasts with dates, bread or other simple items, before proceeding to evening prayer.

The LDS visitors were invited to observe the prayers. LDS women who attended wore head scarves, consistent with Muslim dress standards for women. After the evening prayer, the groups shared a large meal together. The dinners featured traditional Muslim foods such as lamb, couscous, rice and dates. About two dozen LDS members from each of the four stakes attended the events."

1 - A LDS perspective on Muhammed (LDS.org)
http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng

2 - U.S. Muslims share friendship, similar values with Mormons (LA Times, published in 2008)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2

3 - Mormonism and Islam: Commonality and Cooperation Between Abrahamic Faiths (March 10 & 11, 2011 - Utah Valley University)
http://www.uvu.edu/religiousstudies/mormonismandislam/

4 - Ask a Mormon: What do Mormons think of Muslims (March 2010 - MormonWoman.org)
http://mormonwoman.org/2010/03/15/ask-a-mormon-woman-what-do-mormons-think-about-islam/

5 - Mormons and Muslims break fast together (Ramadan 2010 - Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705386347/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California.html

6 - Islamic Translation Service (Brigham Young University)
http://meti.byu.edu/islamic.php

7 - Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets (Deseret News - Dec 2009)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353014/Muslims-attending-BYU-focus-on-similarities-between-Islam-LDS-tenets.html

I'm sure you CAIR about these as much as you CAIR about defending mormonism.

87 posted on 07/23/2012 1:06:27 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: colorcountry

Sorry I don’t go to church.. I don’t like to hang around self righteous a*holes like you..


88 posted on 07/23/2012 1:06:50 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS...)
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To: alicewonders

Would agree, if God where voting He would not obama, or Romney for that matter.


89 posted on 07/23/2012 1:07:35 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
I think a point that you may be missing is that this really isn't about Romney. It is about mormonism. They sincerely believe that mormonism is harmful to their eternal souls. They are using the candidacy of Romney to spotlight mormonism. If Romney wasn't mormon, there would still be a lot of angst about him (witness McCain). But this small group of folks are actually not attacking Romney, but are instead using Romney to (in their words) expose mormonism.

They feel it is a requirement as Christians to do this. And, to be honest with you, I respect that.

My problem is that recently the discussion has become something beyond witnessing. It used to be that a civil discussion could be had. But no longer. Some of the drive-by postings recently are becoming difficult to distinguish from posting-while-drunk. You can picture some of them having to wipe their mouths of the foam and spittle when they are done.

And in the end, it probably turns off more of their intended audience than they would like.

I trust that when Romney is done (one way or the other) they will continue to post about mormonism. Just as they were long before Romney was a national figure.

I just hope that the expose becomes a little quieter so that folks can actually hear and follow.

90 posted on 07/23/2012 1:09:57 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: greyfoxx39

When I see Mormons hijacking planes and flying them into skyscrapers, killing thousands of people - AND - when I see videos of Mormons beheading people - AND - when I see videos of Mormons stoning a woman to death because she was raped..........then we’ll talk.


91 posted on 07/23/2012 1:15:19 PM PDT by alicewonders (I like the GOP Briefing Room for rational adult debate.)
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To: KevinDavis
Heck Reagan even the called the Mormon Tabernacle Choir “Americas Choir”

So, if Mitt could sing that would make him eligible for POTUS?

His record as an abortion-loving governor surely wouldn't stand if he could sing, right?

92 posted on 07/23/2012 1:16:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: KevinDavis

For you it must be impossible to get away from such...


93 posted on 07/23/2012 1:20:06 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: KevinDavis
If Mitt wins I don’t he will establish the LDS as the official religion.. Since the Constitution clearly prohibits it.

Utah hasn't "established" mormonism as the official religion, but the religion rules the state all the same.

94 posted on 07/23/2012 1:25:44 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: alicewonders
then we’ll talk.

I'm quite sure you didn't even bother to follow any of the mormon-muslim links I posted. For example here is a little tidbit for you to chew on.

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Cooperation in Word and Deed

Muslims and Mormons who attend each other’s religious services or events often report feeling very much at ease. The two faiths often co-host social and educational programs. The Mormon-owned Brigham Young University operates a world-class research operation in translating ancient Arab religious texts, which many Muslims interpret as more than a token sign of interest. The Mormon Church has also donated land for the construction of Islamic mosques, and opened the doors of its meetinghouses to Muslims who feared retribution at their own places of worship after 9/11.

The Muslim Mormon Connection

While the country was in mourning over the atrocity of 9/11, the mormons were "opening the doors of meetinghouses to Muslims".

Next, I suppose you will comment that was a wonderful charitable act.

95 posted on 07/23/2012 1:28:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: alicewonders
So any faith that does not fly into buildings, stone or behead is correct and approved by god...

Again it is not just politics and terror...

96 posted on 07/23/2012 1:30:21 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: a22freeman
Will someone please explain why having a Mormon, any Mormon, as president is worse then having Obama for another four years?

Four years of socialism vs. eight years of the squishy republicans refusing to hold Romney' socialism to account because he is "one of theirs".

Obama may very well not last for four years. He's already losing his base.

97 posted on 07/23/2012 1:39:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: T. P. Pole
Exposure of mormonism has been going since before 2002, some just didn't notice.
It is not our eternal soul that is at issue it is the soul of those who follow mormonism.
98 posted on 07/23/2012 2:17:19 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: KevinDavis

So you are so self religious you dont need to go to church, got it.


99 posted on 07/23/2012 2:22:38 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: greyfoxx39
"For a lot of people the Mormon Church becomes the center of their life. It’s more than going to Temple on Saturday or Mass on Sunday for an hour."

What a liar. Hatch and everyone else knows that breakaway LDS sect services are 3 hours long, and that doesn't include meetings for leadership positions. 10-12 hour days are common on Sunday for Bishopric members like I was used to be.

100 posted on 07/23/2012 2:22:50 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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