Marine Corps creates law enforcement battalions

Associated Press ^ | Jul 22, 5:33 PM EDT | JULIE WATSON

[BenLurkin]

The Marine Corps has created its first law enforcement battalions - a lean, specialized force of military police officers that it hopes can quickly deploy worldwide to help investigate crimes from terrorism to drug trafficking and train fledgling security forces in allied nations.

The Corps activated three such battalions last month. Each is made up of roughly 500 military police officers and dozens of dogs. The Marine Corps has had police battalions off and on since World War II but they were primarily focused on providing security, such as accompanying fuel convoys or guarding generals on visits to dangerous areas, said Maj. Jan Durham, commander of the 1st Law Enforcement Battalion at Camp Pendleton.

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The battalions will be capable of helping control civil disturbances, handling detainees, carrying out forensic work, and using biometrics to identify suspects. Durham said they could assist local authorities in allied countries in securing crime scenes and building cases so criminals end up behind bars and not back out on the streets because of mistakes.

[the invisib1e hand]

who needs movies? life is shaping up to be quite a “reality show.”

[Bryanw92]

I wonder how the ethnic and homosexual makeup of these units will compare to the USMC overall?

[stuartcr]

I guess we really are world cops. Excellent cover story though, for when it’s needed.

[musicman]

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[upchuck]

Wow, I wonder if some of these guys could work for Rahmbo in Chi-town? Sounds just like what they need.

[Breto]

I am in the final quarter of my life and it has been a good life in a good country until the government started turning red after the 60’s. I look around at the kids playing in the neighborhood an I cannot help but wonder what kind of life they will have and will they ever know liberty like I did.

I mourn for their future. A future a outlined in Orwells 1984 more likely than the future envisioned by our founders. Boiled frogs all, they will not even know their own oppression.

[Drango]

So NCIS isn’t real???

[coloradan]

Team America ... World Police.

[af_vet_rr]

I guess we really are world cops. Excellent cover story though, for when it’s needed.

We have been for decades, for over a century depending on your definition. All this is doing is taking positions and people that already exist and already function in the same capacity and just renaming them and bringing more of them together.

[JimC214]

NCIS is very real. Just nothing like the TV show.

[SauronOfMordor]

NCIS is to investigate crimes by military. This force is for keeping an occupied population under control.

Posse comitatus forbids the Army from being involved in domestic law enforcement. It does not cover Marines. Nor does it cover militarized fed law enforcement.

[trapped_in_LA]

“I mourn for their future. A future a outlined in Orwells 1984 more likely than the future envisioned by our founders. Boiled frogs all, they will not even know their own oppression.”

Well said! Even sadder is that many of them are demanding their own enslavement but are either too ignorant or stupid to realize that all this “security” means a loss of freedom.

[dragnet2]

Oh boy....

[Grams A]

I mourn for their future.”

Very well written and obviously spoken from your heart. There are many of us that join you. As we venture into our twilight years it saddens me that I’m not leaving my grandchildren with a world anything like the one my parents and grandparents left me.

My grandchildren know that I won’t be around for too many more years and that I pray several times a day for their future and the future of America. Hopefully they will always remember to trust that God will watch over them and protect them - come what may.

[muir_redwoods]

Gosh, do you suppose there’s any “domestic purpose” in mind?

[oneolcop]

I know it's a story abut the first three marine MP battalions...but the US Army has 7 brigades of military police. There are, not counting individual MP companies, reserve, and guard, 10 active (Regular Army) MP battalions. There have been MP battalions in the Army organization since 1941. Better late than never though ("oneol'MP" 504th MP Battalion 18th MP Brigade Vietnam 1966-67)

[I_Publius]

http://www.northcom.mil/About/history_education/posse.html

Posse comitatus act defined.

[dragnet2]

I remember people telling me many years ago, how government would develop into a one-world, global government, all controlled by a few thousand super wealthy people all over the globe...How they would destroy our sovereignty, open the borders, flood the country with millions of illegals and foreigners....Divide the united. Create chaos economically and socially, where government solutions and controls would be needed to solve the, "Problem".

I didn't believe a word of it...

[WorkingClassFilth]

Not good.

In fact, bad.

[Steve Newton]

You do know that if that happens it will be our fault? We our fathers passed down freedom to us. It is our duty to pass it down to the next generation.

[NY Attitude]

Posse comitatus forbids the Army from being involved in domestic law enforcement. It does not cover Marines. Nor does it cover militarized fed law enforcement.

Wasn't the 101st Airborne Division used to quell the riots in Watts, CA after the National Guard could not do it? Also, I do believe that General Wesley Clarke and at least 1 tank was used at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

[glorgau]

Team America - World Police. Nuff said.

[immadashell]

For those who like me, are a little skitish about domestic uses of the armed forces. At first, I thought, Oh great! Gestapo.

The Posse Comitatus Act Section 1385 of Title 18, United States Code (USC), states:

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.

The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

•The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.

•Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.

•Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.

[knarf]

I personally don't give a shit, as long as they sign off on our guys killing the enemy as a matter of warfare and they stand up against the the president, the congress, the UN, the NWO, the LMNOP, and whatever other alphabet soup agency may want to sissify us with.

[clintonh8r]

General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you, now that we need you?

[RIghtwardHo]

Long as they don’t deploy them here.

[Delta 21]

"The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S."

Who exactly determines when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.?

The Chief Executive Officer??

[Iron Munro]

This is an ominous development.

The Marine Corps is not a police force.

[combat_boots]

F# Yeah!

Our USMC should not be so degraded. Let other countries and their sordid, rat-infested, corrupt police departments work their own crimes.

[familyop]

"Wasn't the 101st Airborne Division used to quell the riots in Watts, CA after the National Guard could not do it? Also, I do believe that General Wesley Clarke and at least 1 tank was used at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas."

One was a riot (an insurrection). The other was not. And the best prevention against guerrilla warfare is good and moral government. We should not be taking our lessons from tourists who favor their subservient little reservations in third world slum countries.

[QT3.14]

I wonder how the ethnic and homosexual makeup of these units will compare to the USMC overall?

Just speculation on my part. I could be wrong.

[NY Attitude]

The Bill Clinton Presidency was a good and moral government?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I met a New Zealander a few years back who was a US Marine. He claimed that the US military recruited English-speaking non-citizens to get around Posse Comitatus. He claimed to have been involved in all sorts of domestic shenanigans.

There are a lot of possibilities there, none of them good.

[familyop]

"The Bill Clinton Presidency was a good and moral government?"

No. It wasn't. What I said.

The Hillary Clinton presidency with her First Lady, Bill "Howdy Doody" Clinton, though, did resemble the politics of New York, California and Soviet Moscow.

A good nation will not be controlled by eliminations of freedoms, intensified surveillance against its citizens and social pathologies forced on it by the spoiled effete. It can only be well administered by good (as in moral) government.

We haven't seen government based on morality for a long time. And yes. It once was, contrary to blatherings about Rome from immoral attorneys.

[TheGunny]

BS!

[NY Attitude]

I do agree with you regarding the lack of morality in government. It is truly sad.

[Iron Munro]

Posse comitatus act defined.

As if Barack Obama cared one little bit about the law of the land.

[Cvengr]

MPs can’t even grasp the Traffic Codes/Vehicle Codes.

A waste of manpower.

[familyop]

Thank you.

[familyop]

I see the Associated Press piece (posted above) as a public affairs error or deliberate attempt to foment trouble, BTW. So many articles like that now. I also doubt that the Marines are up to anything sinister. [Prior service myself.]

[NY Attitude]

It is a disinformation scenario that is being played. It is done to keep people up in arms against each other. It is a nasty trick that is being played on the sheeple. Just like “Hope and Change”.

[JimC214]

If he was a active duty US Marine, he could be from Mars, he is still bound to obey any laws that any other Marine has to abide by.

[444Flyer]

Let me guess where this could be going under Obama. Our Marines can't and won't kill a Taliban without the permission of a JAG written letter translating the current ROE’s and given a verbal pass to proceed from their openly homosexual CO, but they would be allowed to shoot and kill any suspect American on the spot should they defy Der Fuhrer.

[Bryanw92]

>>I personally don’t give a shit, as long as they sign off on our guys killing the enemy as a matter of warfare and they stand up against the the president, the congress, the UN, the NWO, the LMNOP, and whatever other alphabet soup agency may want to sissify us with.

My point was that, depending on the ethnic and sexual inclination makeup of the force, it might be more willing to turn its guns on Americans, who the members view as oppressing their particular special interest group.

[Whenifhow]

This article (Marine Battalions) is the implementation phase of Obama’s civilian army.

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Take a look at where we were in late 2009 and early 2010,

A Stability Police Force for the United States

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2402499/posts?page=1

http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG819.html

Here’s the PDF of the actual report
http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG819.pdf

A Stability Force for the United States: Rand Corp calls for National Police Force?
specific comments>>>> posted Jan 12, 2010

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426498/posts#25
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426498/posts?q=1&;page=51#82

Endgame: Office of Detention and Removal Strategic Plan, 2003 - 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2904022/Endgame-Office-of-Detention-and-Removal-Strategic-Plan-2003-2012

Another post from the same time frame may also be in the implementation phase.

DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2366445/posts?page=1

[the invisib1e hand]

Omdb.