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To: bboop

You know, living in CO with a CCW I’ve thought about what would have happened had I been there.

I’m pretty sure the honest answer is either died or ran. If I had a shot and took it, it wouldn’t have worked. He was in all over body armor with a ballistic helmet. He wore a gas mask and was tossing out tear gas grenades. Honestly someone with even a top end CCW pistol would have had a very very slim chance at best. You don’t bring a pistol to a rifle fight, and you sure as hell don’t when the target is pistol proof.

This dirtbag really was just too well prepared.

But as to the original article- who cares if he had 6k rounds of ammo? I doubt he fired off more than 100 all told. The other 5900 are a moot point.

Purchasing 6k rounds is pretty moot for any given tactical situation unless you happen to be toting a minigun.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 1:04:02 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: drbuzzard; Squantos

I have been wondering about that. If you were to three tap him center mass, the vest would stop the rounds, but could he continue the fight?


68 posted on 07/21/2012 2:12:48 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: drbuzzard

Don’t sell yourself short, return fire could have had a dramatic effect even if it failed to completely stop him. His surrender in the parking lot tells us lots about the degree of his resolve when confronted.

Don’t take the news reports about “body armor” as being any more accurate than any of the rest of this reporting. We have far too many reporters giving varying descriptions of the suspect’s clothing for anyone to make an assumption that he was dressed in actual ballistic protection. A ballistic helmet is an appearance. Throat and groin protectors are great against baseballs and hockey sticks. A tactical vest only implies that it’s got lots of pockets.

In addition, train with those problems in mind. There are targets beyond center of mass. Never reinforce failure if your first rounds don’t perform as expected. Enough said.


81 posted on 07/21/2012 2:31:54 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: drbuzzard

If I had a shot and took it, it wouldn’t have worked. He was in all over body armor with a ballistic helmet.
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You are selling yourself and your weapon short.

Civilian body armor when struck by as small a caliber as a 9mm transmits force that can do a lot of damage to the wearer. It can break ribs, knock some people down, etc. At the very least it would throw off his aim.

Newer military armor transmits less force to the wearer but it is still substantial and it takes a strong person to keep shooting after just a couple of hits.


100 posted on 07/21/2012 2:53:09 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: drbuzzard

He was wearing riot gear. Standard pistol rounds would have done him in... All you’d see if some guy tacticooled out in a helmet. Shoot him anyway. Get his head down and you save lives.

Besides, better to take your shot and die for it than run off and be shot in the back.


140 posted on 07/23/2012 2:58:42 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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