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Gun control calls follow shooting, but few expect major changes
The Hill ^ | 07/21/12 | Jordy Yager and Mike Lillis

Posted on 07/21/2012 6:17:56 AM PDT by markomalley

A handful of Democrats are pressing for tougher gun laws in the wake of the Colorado movie theater shootings that left 12 people dead.

Moving such bills has become extraordinarily difficult on Capitol Hill because of powerful gun rights allegiances, however, and Republican strategists predicted the latest gun violence was unlikely to lead to significant changes.

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) — whose husband was killed and son seriously injured in a 1993 shooting on a Long Island commuter train — told reporters on Friday that the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other opponents of gun control have a simple but effective strategy following gun violence tragedies.

“They will wait it out, wait it out, wait it out, until people forget about it again, until another tragedy happens like last night,” said McCarthy. “We should be proactive before another tragedy happens.

"There are ways of doing this without infringing upon anyone's rights,” she said.

McCarthy and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) have worked closely together on a bill that would tighten restrictions on gun shows, where firearms can be easily bought by people with criminal records in some states.

Lautenberg, who introduced a measure banning high-capacity ammunition magazines following the Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) shooting, also called for legislative action on the issue.

“We have to face the reality that these types of tragedies will continue to occur unless we do something about our nation’s lax gun laws,” said Lautenberg.

With a few exceptions, horrific shootings have not led to legislative action on gun laws, Neither the shooting last year of Giffords nor the Virginia Tech shooting that killed 32 people in 2007 led to massive changes in gun laws.

Staunch gun proponents say this time will be no different.

“Any time there’s a horrific attack on U.S. soil where a gun is used, the left comes after the Second Amendment in a knee jerk fashion,” said GOP consultant Matt Mackowiak.

“There’s a strong, bipartisan majority in the House that supports the Second Amendment and the NRA policy viewpoint, which aligns with the majority view in public opinion, meaning little is likely to change politically.”

Even some Democrats expressed caution, which perhaps reflects the political danger some in the party see — just months before the election — of taking on gun legislation.

“This is no time for politics or partisanship,” Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.), the head of Democrats’ re-election efforts in the House, said. “Today it is important that we come together as Americans.”

Gun rights supporters such as Rep. Ron Paul (Texas) argue that law-abiding gun owners should not be forced to pay the price for criminals who commit senseless acts of violence.

“Sadly, there are always bad actors who try to cynically exploit crises to advance their agenda, much like the statist elements who used the vicious attacks on 9/11 to ram through the USA PATRIOT Act and erode our Fourth Amendment protections,” Jesse Benton, a Paul spokesman, said in a statement to The Hill.

“We are likely to see this same kind of demagoguery done with the horrible tragedy in Colorado, but Dr. Paul and his allies are unwavering in fight to protect all Constitutional rights for all Americans,” Benton said.

Some of the most strident comments for gun reform on Friday came from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, the co-chairmen of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns group.

Bloomberg made repeated calls throughout the day for President Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney to firmly announce their stance on gun laws and what they would do differently if elected to the White House in November.

Friday's shooting is likely to reignite the debate over interstate concealed carry laws and the national assault weapons ban, among many other possible sticking points between advocates on either side of the issue.

One of the weapons used in Friday's shooting was an AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle, which will raise questions about whether to reinstate the assault weapons ban that was signed by President Bill Clinton in 1994 but allowed to expire 10 years later under President George W. Bush.

The House late last year passed a bill sponsored by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) that would allow people with concealed gun permits to carry their concealed firearm in any other state that issues similar permits.

Stearns told The Hill that Friday’s shooting would have no effect on the legislation, which is currently being considered by the Senate, and he pressed for his colleagues to disavow any attempt at linking the two.

“There is absolutely no correlation between the legislation and this horrible incident in Aurora, Colorado,” said Stearns in a statement. “And I’m hopeful that no one would try to distort the facts to politicize the loss of so many innocent lives.”

One of the rare exceptions of a shooting that resulted in successful gun legislation came shortly after the Virginia Tech tragedy, when Congress passed a measure that was backed by the NRA.

The law bolsters the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) system by providing states with financial incentives to report records of mental illness to the FBI. Bush signed the NICS Improvement Amendments Act in early 2008, but reporting by states remains voluntary.

Democrats on Friday were overwhelmingly reluctant to attribute the shooting to weak gun laws, waiting instead for law enforcement to investigate how and where the shooter got his firearms.

When a constituent posted a comment on Rep. Mike Quigley’s (D-Ill.) Facebook page urging the Illinois liberal to "sham[e] the NRA toadies in congress to enact some gun laws with teeth in them," Quigley said such a response would be premature and insensitive.

"Today, in this moment, let's keep the focus where it should be: on the people we've lost and those who need our support as they recover in the weeks ahead," said Quigley, among Washington's loudest voices in favor of stricter gun laws.

The NRA too was hesitant to lay its stake in the discussion beyond a two-sentence statement on Friday.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families and the community," said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. “NRA will not have any further comment until all the facts are known.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2ndamendment; 57states; banglist; democrats; guncontrol; leftwingmassmurder; liberalfascism; mediawingofthednc; mymuslimfaith; partisanmediashills; secondamendment; youwillnodisarmus; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: MarDav
If the the assailant is standing up at the front of the theater to begin his rampage, there would be quite a hail of “caliber salad” being tossed his way.

This is the flaw in your thinking.

He did not just stand there. He walked up the aisles shooting people.

Second, I would like to see the responsible firearm owner who is going to pull the trigger in a theater full of bright white smoke, people running everywhere and over each other, while your eyes are burning and you are coughing uncontrollably.

Would you try? Maybe.

You might try when he is on top of you.

Would you shoot as a distraction so your family/friends can get away? Perhaps.

Would a 9mm hit on body armor stun someone on a large dose of vicodin? Maybe.

Too many think of stationary targets, clear skies and no chaos going on around you.

This was designed to reduce the threat from anyone who was carrying.

Not a level playing field.

41 posted on 07/21/2012 8:53:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: markomalley

Go ahead you communist pukes... start another Civil War... you will not like it this time. It will be between Patriots and traitors this time.

LLS


42 posted on 07/21/2012 9:12:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Average Al

I’ve wondered how effective an armed movie-goer would have been.

The theater was dark. It filled with tear gas (and some other gas) before anyone know what was happening.

The attacker had bullet proof armor over most of his body. But the ccw defender wouldn’t be able to tell that in the poor lighting conditions.

Probably the best shot was through the gas mask, but would a ccw holder have been able to (a) know that and (b) see the vulnerable spot through teared eyes?

Nevertheless, an armed movie goer has a much better chance of stopping this man than an unarmed one.


43 posted on 07/21/2012 9:21:17 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: rktman

Where are the calls to ban movie theaters? Those people could have been watching Batman in the safety of their living rooms.


44 posted on 07/21/2012 9:24:27 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Travis McGee
About 20 years ago a ticked off loon set fire to an after-hours disco/bar in NYC, and killed a bunch more than any shooter. Just used a can of gasoline at the door.

So what's your point? They're already working on banning gasoline. That problems solved, too. < /lib>

45 posted on 07/21/2012 9:28:32 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: gitmo

Well it is easy to second guess an event we weren’t involved in. After all the other attacks I was hoping
people would be a little more heroic, yet we have to
take in to account most of the audience was probably
very young and took this as part of the movie premier
at first.


46 posted on 07/21/2012 9:38:27 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: urodoc

They (MSM and left) didn’t give this much attention to the Fort Hood shooting. Its what’s serves their agenda. They keep delaying that trial.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 10:13:36 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Eye of Unk
And they passed gun control in Australia.

Soros influence involved.

48 posted on 07/21/2012 10:21:22 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: gitmo
1991 was the Luby’s Restaurant massacre in Killeen, TX, where a man drove his pickup through restaurant windows and shot diners indiscriminately, killing 23 and wounding 20 others.

That night a spurned boyfriend tossed a molotov cocktail into a nightclub his girlfriend was patronizing, killing 32.

News of the shooting was everywhere, radio, TV, everywhere.

News of the molotov cocktail was a one inch mention in my local newspaper.

That, my friend is typical propaganda.

49 posted on 07/21/2012 11:58:44 AM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Travis McGee
I’ve wanted to put captions on pics for a decade. Now, I am unleashed.

What, you didn't have Photomax?

50 posted on 07/21/2012 2:09:09 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: csmusaret
...proving that Planned Parenthood is 38 times more dangerous than the National Rifle Association.

Good one...I would just point out that the NRA doesn't actually shoot anybody. PP, OTOH....

51 posted on 07/21/2012 8:34:31 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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