“Next, if we want a $4T government, then we should PAY FOR IT, rather than dumping the HUGE deficit on to my kids, and later their kids. Yes, it would be great to cut government spending first, but Americans are in no mood for that. Just on this site, most older people are not about to give up their welfare money (i.e., what is called Social Security), so how can conservatives make a case that the lower classes should give up their welfare money? Not going to happen.”
Because the gubmint robs the taxpayers in SS taxes, of course the people that paid into it want it back... As for the poor or “lower classes,” what have they done to earn their “welfare?” Absolutely nothing, that is the difference.
If the gubmint stopped taking the SS tax today, I would gladly accept not receiving SS when I retire. However, what little I would get in SS benefits, I would expect in the form of a rebate for what I have already contributed.
“If the gubmint stopped taking the SS tax today, I would gladly accept not receiving SS when I retire.”
AWESOME, someone on my side. Let’s kill those tax cuts together so that we can “pay you back” for SS!!
...Because I’m SURE you don’t want my kids (and probably your kids) to be stuck with a bankrupt country that underfunded its government for a generation.
Screw the grandkids, Let’s Party!
One other thing...you WILL get your Social Security - all of it, there is absolutely no doubt about it.
How do I know that? Easy - when half of the older people on this site DEMAND it, and virtually all of the older people (i.e., less conservative) in the country (i.e., the other 99% of them) demand it, it’s a done deal. YOU WILL GET IT, all of it. So don’t worry about it.
The only argument now is who is supposed to pay for your share of the goodies. Should you and I pay for some of it (which we are not doing now due to our huge deficit), or should we dump it all on our kids. That’s the only point being debated.