[Miss Marple]

There are many provisions in the Obamacare bill that are already in place and could be effectively used for campaign purposes. These include:

It is a tax on the working poor.
They have instituted a 2-week wait period for defibrillator pacemakers.
They are taxing artificial legs and hip replacement parts.
Muslims, unions, certain corporations, and certain towns, cities and states got exemptions. (The Muslim example PO’s people like you wouldn’t believe.)

I suggest people start talking about these things to everyone you know.

And as far as I am concerned, tax’s on the medical devices is the same as taxing you for being a cripple. (Using the most p[perjorative manner of saying this as possible.)

Another way is to say “Captain Smith lost both his legs in the Iraq War, and now Obama wants to tax him for getting new legs.”

I am serious. WE should be saying this stuff. We shuold not be waiting on the Romney people. Our job is to sow Obama doubt everywhere we go.

[Fishtalk]

Dear Lord Miss M!

You are taking over my job but you do it so well!

I normally tell the Repubs what they should say but hey, I tip my hat to yon expertise.

I mean, why can’t Mittens’ campaign say as you suggest?

I’ll tell you something else, while we’re on the subject....all those things they like to tout as being so “beloved” by the American people....how about the Mittens people lay out a little truth on that matter?

This thing about kids under age 26, lookit....young people at that age are very healthy, their health insurance is cheap, this is nowhere near the big deal they make it to be. I daresay if a law of some sort were passed to allow these young adults to remain on policies until an elder age (and most work type policies do cover these folks if they are in college) it would probably pass. The health insurers would build the cost, again which would not be all that much, into the cost of a family plan.

This is not some sort of gilded gift here, the Mittens people could remind.

As for pre-existing conditions, people, THIS IS VERY, VERY expensive.

Again, most employment policies cover pre-existing conditions.

But if you’ve got cancer or some other thing and want to buy coverage after the fact....IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE!

They’re not going to do this for nothing.

Here in Delaware there is a rule that health insurance policies must insure end stage renal disease.

I don’t know why but this is the big part of our health insurance problem, you got fifty little fiefdoms across the fruited plains, with insurance commissioners playing politics, cover this, cover that, Joe’s the council guy has hernias....must cover that. Coverage for such as AIDS is always a sticking point. If you want the homosexual vote you force your insurance guy to include coverage mandatory in all policies sold in the state. Yes, even MEN must purchase pregnancy coverage. It’s the bigger problem here.

BUT....by chance I was researching obtaining health insurance gap coverage for Medicare and happened to get some quotes.

For coverage of end stage renal disease the cost was...hold your breath...

TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH!!!

Yeah the little state insurance fiefdoms can demand this sort of stuff that coverage get reduced by forcing it into the greater health pool.

BUT IT AIN’T FREE!

You think the Mittens people might start pointing this sort of thing out?

I’m jus’ sayin’.

[kabar]

I agree we need a massive grassroots effort to inform and to turn out the vote. The objective should be to make the election a referendum on Obama and his record. Playing defense responding to these outrageous charges won't cut it.

I have no doubt Romney will go on the offense. I would like his surrogates to go after Obama's personal narrative. He is a fraud and a poseur with lots of unanswered questions about how this community organizer became the President without any real vetting by the press.

The Arpaio press conference is Tuesday. Hopefully, he will come up with some nuggets that can be exploited raising more questions about Obama's personal story. Polls already show the public is skeptical about Obama's birth certificate, his religion, his associations with Ayers, Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, failure to disclose his school records, etc.

Romney can use the super PACs and other surrogates to feed this skepticism and be above the fray by just saying he has no comment and that Obama must address these issues himself. We all saw how Trump forced Obama to release his alleged long form birth certificate, which has really been proven to be a fraud. This will put Obama on the defensive and result in lots of whinning on his part and his supporters.