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Ontario [California] Flashlight Firm [Mag-Lite] Set For ‘Made In USA’ Showdown
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| July 9, 2012 10:12 PM
Posted on 07/11/2012 3:54:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: cripplecreek
I'd be willing to bet that the in the LED models the LED and control circuitry are foreign parts too.
It is a little early to mention it, but around here the Lowes stores typically sell Mag-Lites for half price on Thanksgiving weekend. I don't know if that is just a local sale or national. Mark you calendars.
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posted on
07/11/2012 4:52:07 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
To: BenLurkin
all but a handful of parts, he says, that either arent made in America or are prohibitively expensive in the US. how many parts can there be in a flashlight???
i've got a full size MAG and several mini's and thought you could count the parts on two hands
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posted on
07/11/2012 5:09:37 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
07/11/2012 5:10:33 PM PDT
by
Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
To: Tijeras_Slim
Which is why I bought one for my daughter.
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posted on
07/11/2012 5:23:27 PM PDT
by
Excellence
(9/11 was an act of faith.)
To: BenLurkin
its almost impossible to have every tiny O-ring made in the US, where they cost 25 times as much as China.
Bull chet
Just 10 miles from Mag_lite in Brea, CA, is West Coast Gasket Company, where they are doing gang buster biz and make every conceivable gasket or o-ring.
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posted on
07/11/2012 5:25:31 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: BenLurkin
About 10 years ago, I found the 4-cell Mag-Lite to be a less than effective defensive tool. A social counterpart found said 4-cell Mag-Lite to be a less than effective offensive tool.
Since then, I use SureFire for light, and other more purpose-driven tools for more purpose-driven... purposes.
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posted on
07/11/2012 6:24:11 PM PDT
by
real saxophonist
(Proud to have been beat up and shot by the late Paul Gomez. RIP, 'Gnomez'.)
To: szweig
SabreLite 2010 LED Photoluminescent Flashlight is an excellent flashlight and is does well in water.
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posted on
07/11/2012 6:24:56 PM PDT
by
RedhairRedhair
(I STILL love my (scab made) Toyota)
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posted on
07/11/2012 6:41:54 PM PDT
by
RedMDer
(https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
To: Spktyr
As production costs and marketing markups fall for LEDs there's plenty of room for innovators to figure out brackets to hang these lights on ~ a whole new world out there in fact.
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posted on
07/11/2012 6:42:14 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
MagLite still hasn’t noticed that yet. They’re about to be the buggy whip makers of the flashlight world.
The guy either needs to get someone in that can innovate (if he can’t), move to get his production costs down, both (preferably), sell out to someone else or just close the place down. He really doesn’t have any other choices that won’t make it worse.
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:07:09 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: dragnet2
Call WCGC tomorrow and ask them where their Viton O-Rings are made. Here’s a hint: Most likely not here - most non-aviation-grade Viton (and other) O-Rings are made in China because of environmental and cost reasons.
I was just trying to source some for a project that could not afford to have the O-ring fail for a specified period of time. I ended up saying the heck with it and getting some from the Parker Hannifin shop at the airport.
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:13:46 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
most non-aviation-grade Viton (and other) O-Rings are made in China because of environmental and cost reasons. Hey, we know the guy is doing it for max profits. However, what would be the cost of say, 5,000 small flashlight sized o-rings? What's he saving shipping from across the planet? $400?
Come on...
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:24:34 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: Spktyr
BTW, flashlight o-rings are not some kind of rocket o-rings and can *easily* be made here. This guy wants to save a few bucks by dealing with communist China, well he can have at, along with the bad publicity.
I'd bet he's getting some kind of kick back, other than his puny saving, from someone, for taking this bit of biz to China. It just does not make sense, given the fact flashlight o-rings are easily made for cheap, once the mold is created.
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:32:01 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: dragnet2
Well, the O-rings I needed are about the size of the ones used in my old and now retired 4-D Cell Maglite, which is IIRC still their most popular model.
$19.00 per ring at Parker Hannifin. Qty 10,000 was only a 20% discount (I’d asked if there was any possible discount). And I couldn’t find *any* US made O-rings in the sizes I want - all the “we make seals here, honest!” shops all over the country that I called said that they had given up on making O-rings here and simply resold ones made in China and elsewhere overseas due to the ridiculous EPA (and in the case of CA, state) environmental restrictions.
Did you know the state of California says you can’t emit pure steam or pure water into the environment as a manufacturer? I didn’t until I started making phone calls and a couple of CA makers told me that.
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: dragnet2
Check again. If non-av grade O-rings are still made here, they’re damn hard to find - I spent a week calling around for some.
By the way, his O-rings have to be made of something that doesn’t bond to his anodized aluminum and are not just water but gas tight (so if you use his lights in an explosive atmosphere, you don’t start a fire). They’re a little more complex than “any old o-ring.”
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posted on
07/11/2012 7:37:57 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: cripplecreek
Still it would be even better if the O rings were made here. I cant imagine they would add that much cost to the individual product. The article says they cost 25 times as much as the Chinese made.
To: Tijeras_Slim
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
Baton = Noun.
Club = Verb.
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posted on
07/11/2012 9:27:40 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(Godfathercare, either your Freedom or your Money will be on that Insurance Policy.)
To: Spktyr
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posted on
07/11/2012 10:41:05 PM PDT
by
lewislynn
( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
To: lewislynn
LED lights as used in flashlights are brighter, use less power (and thus hugely extend battery life) and don’t automatically fail the first time you fire a longarm around them. Or drop them.
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posted on
07/11/2012 10:43:48 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
If non-av grade O-rings are still made here, theyre damn hard to find - I spent a week calling around for some. West Coast Gasket could easily have a mold made. They could punch out 10,000 of these every day or two. This isn't rocket science o-rings...We're talking flashlights here.
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posted on
07/11/2012 10:44:19 PM PDT
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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