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To: DannyTN
Medicaid, food stamps, and probably a myriad of smaller programs are charity.

You are insanely stuck on the false belief that government programs are a net positive. These programs are NOT charity at all -- they are out and out welfare handouts.

I personally know of a number of people who are scamming the Food Stamp and WIC programs. They have relatives inside the system that tell them how to do it to get the benefits. I am sure this is repeated over and over throughout the government These are people making good money.

The vast majority of the money goes to people that are in no way suffering as they did, say in the depression.

Charity at it's root is a voluntary giving of one's time or money to help others truly in need.

Food Stamps, Medicaid, etc were constructed for two reasons -- to increase the Democratic voter base and increase the power of the State.

Any rational person who cherishes I Constitution should be appalled at any program at the Federal level dispensing so called private charity It goes against everything our Founders believed in.

89 posted on 07/12/2012 11:44:58 AM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88
"I personally know of a number of people who are scamming the Food Stamp and WIC programs."

So you've reported these people right? Or are your morals such that you can stand down while people rob the system while you decry the fact that any of the poor are getting help?

90 posted on 07/12/2012 12:08:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: sand88
"Any rational person who cherishes I Constitution should be appalled at any program at the Federal level dispensing so called private charity It goes against everything our Founders believed in.'

Have you ever read through the acts of the first 4 to 5 congresses? They gave food to the Indians. They voted for disaster relief. They gave land away like crazy. They authorized help for people who had suffered damage from Indians. They provided funds for many windows, orphans, invalids usually those that were linked to the revolutionary war. But often by specific name. Even setting up an education fund for the son of a slain General.

What's more, There's even a record of them mandating health care and mandating purchases. This one is a few years further down the road in 1790, but 14 of the 20 constitution framers still in congress voted for it and none objected on constitutional grounds.

Early Congressional mandates for healthcare and gun purchases

I don't like the mandates and was hoping they would be ruled unconstitutional, but to imply the framers weren't charitable ignores history.

91 posted on 07/12/2012 12:59:15 PM PDT by DannyTN
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