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To: BlackElk
Google his name. Find first The American Catholic and the victim soul website obituaries

I did. Thanks. Very inspirational. You were blessed to know him.

One barrier between thee and me is that you actually believe Mittler's lies and apparently you are not aware of Mittler's history.

Not exactly. Had a front-row seat to his antics, and IMO he was more of a figurehead in MA than people realize (and than he would like to admit). The liberal state legislature mostly runs the show (this week going head to head with Gov. Deval Patrick, Obama's Chicago buddy). I have viewed him as a typical mercenary-politician (hence the flip-flopping), whereas I view Obama as a hardened Marxist idealogue. Even based on the premise that politicians of all stripes are self-serving tools of government rather than moral beacons, I still hope that a mercenary Republican has a higher likelihood of being functionally more malleable and responsive to pro-life issues (although there is no guarantee, of course) than an idealogue Democrat. Obama, after 3 1/2 years in office, leaves us in no doubt whatsoever of what is in store if he continues on his destructive path. Romney (maybe?) has the potential to be led in a less morally repugnant direction. Admittedly I'm a cynic, but still not ready to relinquish the field to Obama if there is even a sliver of hope that his wretched Marxist policies can be stymied in ANY way. How is it succumbing to moral relativism if the goal is to push back against a Marxist dictator wannabe who rules by fiat and executive order? After all, Marxism and death go hand in hand.

Reserve your faith for God and not for politicians.

You're absolutely right. Furthermore, expect little to nothing in the way of moral or even rational leadership from politicians, or prepare to be disappointed. Try to vote in a way that mitigates the damage they are allowed to inflict. God will sort out the mess in His own time.

"Which in his times he shall shew, who is the Blessed and only Mighty, the King of kings and the Lord of lords"

193 posted on 07/12/2012 6:28:15 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut; Jim Robinson; Windflier; Dr. Sivana; EternalVigilance; Finny; cripplecreek; ...
BlatherNaut:

As to moral relativism, google wikipedia's article on defining same and go to the section on Roman Catholicism's view of same within that article which references JP II, B-XVI and Veritatis Splendor and specifically uses the abortion "controversy" as an example of the moral relativism that has swept Europe (and the US?) since 1960.

Also, Drudge on Thursday night suggests that Condoleeza Rice is a finalist for VPOTUS nomination. If so, Mittler is flirting with an all pro-abort ticket to titillate the Junior Leaguers and polo players who will be sooooo excited that "we" have chosen an African-American woman who is a pro-abort. If this comes to fruition, there will be an exodus of pro-lifers from the GOP of truly Biblical proportions. I wouldn't vote for Romney no matter whom he chooses but many pro-lifers may want to really, really believe his lies unless and until he pulls this sort of bonehead move.

In Massachusetts, I know one guy whose judgment I would consider IF he supported Mittler. That is Bill Cotter of Operation Rescue Boston. He is not Father Weslin (no one is) but he is reasonably close.

A few more observations on moral relativism. Start with two quite triumphant and generally hard-line terms of Ronaldus Maximus. It was morning in America again. By year 7 he was beginning to slip a bit. Next we got Bush the Elder and "read my lips" who never believed in the Reagan agenda in the first place. Watch what they DO and not what they say. We read his lips and in the 1992 election the spineless liberal SOB had about 37% support left while just thrilling Muffy and Skipper. Bush the Elder paid lip service to pro-life but allowed Operation Rescue to be persecuted by the fedgov under RICO (even Justice Steven Breyer rejected in NOW vs. Scheidler the applicability of RICO). Then we nominated Robert Dole, described memorably by Jack Kemp as the "tax collector for the welfare state." Although Dole had a generally pro-life voting record which helped him in Kansas, he was married to untrustworthy Liddy and both "worshiped" at the same ultra-leftist Foundry Methodist Church in DC as Slick Willie and the Hildebeast. We tacked back a bit toward common sense with Dubya who was a far better man than his daddy as POTUS but certainly not perfect. Then we got McCain whose actual ideology is probably little but not much better than his infamous daughter Miss Piggy. Sarah Palin was the sole bright shining moment in that campaign but she got muzzled by the fashionables. Now it may be Romney/Rice. Not even Ronaldus Maximus was perfect but he was very very good. At his best, Dubya was good. Ford and Nixon were trash. So was Goldwater for reasons not noted in 1964. The others were trash as well. The more we were patient and loyal and supported the GOP-E trash, the worse they got.

It is always the same old lame argument from the GOP. The world will come to an end unless we defeat the Democrats. Yeah, our guy is (with few noted exceptions) a disgrace to the human race but at least he is OUR disgrace. If THEIR guy is elected, the boogie man will getcha and SCOTUS will become the supreme soviet of the US. Aren't you weary of this crap??? I am and I won't play their game anymore.

As recently as 2008, I am ashamed to say that I was having nasty arguments with Tom Hoefling here and I was taking the GOP side against the the 3rd party alternative. Now I will vote for Tom Hoefling and, if he is not on my ballot, I will vote for Virgil Goode who will be. Goode may well cause Mittler to lose Virginia. Let the GOP-E put THAT in their pipe and smoke it.

If Obozo is re-elected, the GOP will have to stick together to resist him and then maybe the pro-abort, anti-military, tax on modest folks hungry, pro-homosexualist, Church hating, GOP-E slack-jawed spoiled rich brats will get the message that conservatives don't exist to be used by them. They will have do it our way (not lip service but consistent effective ACTION) or they can pay a LOT higher taxes. Those are their options. If they want this conservative vote from now on at any level, they will have to EARN it.

194 posted on 07/13/2012 12:06:25 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Tom Hoefling for POTUS! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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