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To: bacall

100% Kenyan refers to the fact that his namesake father (forget biology for this) was apparently needed to extract him from Indonesia and cut his ties to Indonesia - legally (in the eyes of governments) and completely.

According to Indonesian law a foreign woman who marries a Indonesian citizen AUTOMATICALLY obtains Indonesian citizenship 1 year after marriage if her spouse does not renounce his Indonesian citizenship in the same period. Thus, in the eyes of Indonesia SAD was a citizen of Indonesia. Was she also a citizen of the US? No according to Indonesia law. But she could have maintained her ‘dual citizenship’ in both countries. She would just have to present herself as a citizen of each respective country while within their borders.

So with an Indonesian step father (very possibly formally adopted) and with a mother who was considered Indonesian Obama HAD to be considered an Indonesian citizen - at least by the government of Indonesia.

But for some reason he returned to Hawaii. Remember that Indonesia was very volatile during this period. The US has assisted the overthrow a communist leaning leader. Events were bloody and things were far from settled in the country. Maybe his safety was at issue. Maybe the Indonesians found SAD was doing the ‘dual citizen’ thing that is against their law. Maybe they did not start the legal 1 year married clock until the family arrived in 1967. But we know that in 1968 Obama II was removed his mother’s US passport. So what passport did he go onto? US? Indonesian? Those are really the only two options at that junction. We only know that he came off of SADs US passport. He HAD to go onto some other passport. Almost certainly this was Indonesian. So in 1968 Obama II likely had and Indonesian passport. Remember the 1969 Christmas picture with Scott? 1969! And there are references to travel back and forth between Hawaii and Indonesia all during the period the family was in Indonesia. So Barry was likely traveling on an Indonesian passport between the US and Indonesia as an Indonesian citizen.

Now why is namesake dad needed? Because Barry Soetoro’s legal guardians are not going anywhere. They are not leaving Indonesia. They are not renouncing their citizenships in 1971. So what legal right does a minor have to renounce their Indonesian citizenship and just move the to US when neither parent is having a change in citizenship? None that I found. But if a birth father comes forward and legally reclaims their adopted child from the citizen step-father or adopted father then there IS a legal path to terminate Indonesian citizenship. And this is why Obama Senior is needed in 1971. He is needed to ‘extract’ Obama II while letting the parents maintain their Indonesian citizenships. Otherwise there is no path for Obama II to terminate his Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia law prevents termination of citizenship if it were to result in a ‘stateless’ status.

So Obama Senior claims his nakesake child - legally. He does this from Hawaii in December 1971. When does this Indonesia, Kenya and the US all probably recognize Obama II as 100% KENYAN at this point. Obama senior HAS to become the SOLE legal guardian. As such, Obama II is now KENYAN without having set foot in the country. Some how, some way the guardianship is then transferred to the Dunhams.

During this period of citizenship and guardianship transfers the records would have all had to have been ‘cleaned up’ to make this happen. Thus Hawaii records would have to record Obama Senior as the father. Even if that was the case in 1961 or later. The records would have altered and refiled to satisfy that since that was required condition for Obama Senior to be able to lay legal claim to his namesake son and extract him out of Indonesia.

This is why 1971 becomes a wormhole of records in Hawaii. Whatever happened before then probably was legally altered and sealed. Not as part of some Constitutional grand conspiracy but to assist with the transfer of a child out of what was likely a dangerous place for an American child at the time.

Hopefully tomorrow will provide some answers. Lets hope so.


192 posted on 07/16/2012 8:48:27 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6

Thanks for the in-depth response. Would he have been “stateless” if his Indonesian citizenship was voided? Wouldn’t he still be a US citizen, provided he was born in Hawaii, which we don’t know for certain?

Ann took him off her passport, he got an Indonesian one, and he traveled to Hawaii where he met up with BHO, who then handled the paperwork to have him declared a Kenyan citizen. It’s confusing.

There are photos of Ann in Hawaii at Christmas time, when BHO was still there. Barry is in them, too. Both parents were there. She traveled on her US passport? Barry on his Indonesian one? Then what?

They gave guardianship to her parents who perhaps adopted him? That would seal the original birth records and even if it was later put back the way he wants us to believe it originally read, Hawaiian laws state that all amendments have to be listed on any certified copies.

Whatever happened, that’s probably what they’re hiding. What was it they say about Watergate? It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup? They’ve dug a deep hole now.

So what if this was legal and done to transfer him from a dangerous situation (which sounds like obot rationalization. Sorry.) I don’t believe that because they took him there precisely when it was dangerous. By the time he came back, things had settled down, I believe.

But he lied about it, which is the big problem. He ought to have explained it from the beginning, if it was on the up and up. Why instead send Lakin to prison?


211 posted on 07/17/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by bacall
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