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Actually, Justice Roberts Demolished Obama In His Supreme Court Ruling
Business Insider ^ | Jun. 28, 2012, | Grace Wyler

Posted on 06/28/2012 9:09:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah

....But while Roberts may have saved Obama's signature domestic legislation — and perhaps his reelection campaign — by siding with the court's liberal wing, he actually did it in spite of Obama, not because of him.

Roberts' opened his opinion today by declaring, unequivocally, that the individual mandate — which requires people to buy insurance or pay a penalty — is not constitutional under the Commerce Clause or the Necessary and Proper Clause. It's a direct shot at the Obama administration's defense of the law's constitutionality, which largely relied on those two clauses, which give Congress the power to regulate commerce and to enact provisions that are necessary to carry out its laws, respectively.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; authorondrugs; businessinsider; chiefjusticeroberts; deathpanels; idiocy; obamacare; obamacaredecision; roberts; scotus; stupidafterthink; zerocare; zerohedge
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To: little jeremiah

Sorry, you are trying to put lipstick on a pig. This ruling was a disaster for us. There is no getting around what Roberts just did to this country. I chose not to go to the health club today. Roberts just ruled that I can be taxed for that. He is one SOB.


61 posted on 06/28/2012 9:52:00 PM PDT by BLOC77 (i was pro-life before pro-life was cool)
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t think it was a dead woman, unless that woman was Lady Liberty.


62 posted on 06/28/2012 9:52:22 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1255 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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To: NVDave

Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this


63 posted on 06/28/2012 9:52:57 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: NVDave

Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this


64 posted on 06/28/2012 9:53:13 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: kingu

I know morons who still think ObamaCare will be giving them free health care in 2014. There is simply a huge swath of citizens who are hopelessly stupid. When they hear “tax”, they are going keep assuming that it’s taxes on the rich. And they’ll all be voting in November to further enable Obama.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 9:53:13 PM PDT by kevao
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To: NVDave

Roberts GAVE THEM an out ..HE brought up the idea that it’s a tax
May he rot in hell
WELL WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FOLKS ?
WHERE IS THE MILLION MAN MARCH ON
DC /
WHERE IS THE NEW SUPER CHARGED TEA PARTY OUTRAGE..HUH WHERE IS IT ?
WHO IS ORGANIZING IT ? I HAVEN’T SEEN A WORD OF REACTION WITH TEETH IN IT
If we dont tear DC down then we deserve this


66 posted on 06/28/2012 9:53:22 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: null and void

The answer is probably in the FBI Files in Eric Holder’s desk.


67 posted on 06/28/2012 9:53:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Roberts Care is Romney Care on Steroids)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is kind of like Al Qaeda saying that they are going to behead you and then telling you about how they are doing you a favor by taking all of that weight off of your shoulders.

lol.
68 posted on 06/28/2012 9:53:57 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s doubtful Robert’s saved Obama’s reelection, but it isn’t for lack of trying.


69 posted on 06/28/2012 9:56:25 PM PDT by pallis
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To: sonic109

Easy, dude! It’s only been 15 hours since the decision. Million-man marches aren’t organized in 15 hours. Something that massive takes sometimes an entire day or two to organize!


70 posted on 06/28/2012 9:57:09 PM PDT by kevao
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To: originalbuckeye
My argument to many of my friends. We dont just need 4 new Senators. We need 13.

Not enough. How about 33? And another 435 on the other side of the building.

They all need to go.

71 posted on 06/28/2012 9:58:53 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
No he is NOT correct.

From the dissent by Alito,Kennedy,Scalia and Thomas:

"Our cases establish a clear line between a tax and a penalty: “‘[A] tax is an enforced contribution to provide for the support of government; a penalty . . . is an exaction imposed by statute as punishment for an unlawful act.’” United States v. Reorganized CF&I Fabricators of Utah, Inc., 518 U. S. 213, 224 (1996) (quoting United States v. La Franca, 282 U. S. 568, 572 (1931)). In a few cases, this Court has held that a “tax” imposed upon private conduct was so onerous as to be in effect a penalty. But we have never held—never—that a penalty imposed for violation of the law was so trivial as to be in effect a tax. We have never held that any exaction imposed for violation of the law is an exercise of Congress’ taxing power—even when the statute calls it a tax, much less when (as here) the statute repeatedly calls it a penalty. When an act “adopt[s] the criteria of wrongdoing” and then imposes a monetary penalty as the “principal consequence on those who transgress its standard,” it creates a regulatory penalty, not a tax. Child Labor Tax Case, 259 U. S. 20, 38 (1922)."

LINK

72 posted on 06/28/2012 9:59:46 PM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: aquila48

Oh My God, the king was celebrating!!!


73 posted on 06/28/2012 10:00:30 PM PDT by BLOC77 (i was pro-life before pro-life was cool)
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To: free me

Roberts isn’t qualified to shine Scalia’s shoes.


74 posted on 06/28/2012 10:01:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Cyber Liberty

SORRY Cyber Liberty!

I replied to the wrong post!


75 posted on 06/28/2012 10:02:23 PM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: winner3000
Best analysis so far is by Peter Schiff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNCyEC9r_mk&feature=relmfu

Thanks for posting this. Peter Schiff is brilliant.

Everyone of us should watch this. He eviscerates this ruling, shows just how far from the Constitution Roberts had to stray to make his traitorous ruling, and even provides some strategies for challenging it.

76 posted on 06/28/2012 10:04:07 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 10:04:41 PM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: little jeremiah; rdcbn

Sure be nice to know where the Ginsberg threat info came from.

It would explain a few things - if true. However, not sure the enormity of this ruling would be worth it and Obama would still have had to get someone else confirmed which wouldn’t necessarily be easy.


78 posted on 06/28/2012 10:06:23 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: rwfromkansas
You keep saying this, and it is untrue. Please stop.

Here is the relevent passage you are missing (among many):

The individual mandate, by contrast, vests Congress with the extraordinary ability to create the necessary predicate to the exercise of an enumerated power

What, pray tell, is the enumerated power which the individual mandate exercises?

[Hint: NONE.]

79 posted on 06/28/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The justification for a tax cannot be the authority to tax in and of itself.)
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To: little jeremiah

How stupid. When Nancy Pelosi is smiling, America has just taken one in the ass. I can’t stand these Beltway “conservatives” who are either lying to us, or are simply imbeciles. Bob


80 posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:52 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Bedroom eyes and boardroom faces---Oh where will it lead?" from Red Toupee by Al Stewart)
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