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House Finds Holder in Contempt: 17 Democrats and 2 Republicans break with their parties
National Journal ^ | June 28, 2012 | 4:58 p.m. | Billy House

Posted on 06/28/2012 2:01:33 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

The Republican-controlled House on Thursday voted 255 to 67 to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, a historic and divisive election-year action that GOP leaders cast deadly serious and Democratic leaders dismiss as petty politics.

The unprecedented House censure of a sitting attorney general -- the Obama administration’s top lawyer – over Holder’s refusal to release internal documents tied to a botched gun-trafficking investigation saw both sides dig in. The White House asserted this week the documents are protected by executive privilege. Republicans pressed an emotional trump card that guns that slipped into the hands of drug cartels in the “Fast and Furious” operation have been linked to the deaths of a Border Patrol Agent, and hundreds of Mexicans, and the subpoenaed material would shed light about department actions in its aftermath.

The vote fell almost entirely along party lines, with just 17 Democratic defections and two Republican ones. Racial overtones came into play in the vote, as some Black lawmakers and others walked out, refusing to participate in the action against Holder, an African American.

The immediate impact of the House’s action – beyond any political repercussions – is almost nil. What’s likely next to happen, according Republican congressional sources, is that the lead House committee in the matter, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., will file civil suit in federal court, seeking a declaratory judgment that Holder is in contempt and an injunction ordering him to comply in turning over the documents. But that action could take years to be sorted out through any appeals process. The House also has the option of referring the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia for prosecution of Holder in federal court, but Republicans know the department would probably refuse to charge its own leader.

Along with the contempt resolution, the House voted Thursday to authorize the Oversight and Government Reform Committee to initiate some legal action.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holderincontempt; holderisincontempt; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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To: Hunton Peck
Holder is found in “Contempt of Congress”.
I sure ain't getting too excited over this, I have been in contempt of congress for a long time. I find that Eric Holder and I now have something in common. Now after the theatrics, are we any closer to finding out just what happened in Fast and Furious? All this is, is election year posturing. This time next year Fast and Furious will be forgotten. Eric Holder either will be Attorney General or the highly respected former Attorney General. Brian Terry and Jaime Zapata will still be dead. The drugs and UDAs will still be flowing over the border at will. John McCain will still be pontificating on Greta and anywhere else that they will talk to him. The border sheriffs will still be complaining about the drugs and aliens. Grassley and Issa will be patting themselves on the back, telling us how brave they were to stand up to Eric Holder. And Brian Terry and Jaime Zapata will still be dead. Same $hit different day.
51 posted on 06/28/2012 2:46:13 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: Hunton Peck

It is revealing how high the abstention count was.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 2:46:45 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Old Sarge

Black lawmakers and others walked out

It’s always f’n about race with these liberal black lawmakers. I think they should have a slush fund for psycharactic treatment for self mental abuse these black lawmakers seem to suffer from. It’s getting old fellas.


53 posted on 06/28/2012 2:47:44 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Rudder
“Two Republicans defected?
Snow and Collins?”


I thought you said 2 Republicans...oh, wait, you did./s

54 posted on 06/28/2012 2:48:19 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe you should know Senators vs Representatives??


55 posted on 06/28/2012 2:49:07 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Rudder

This was a house vote not the senate


56 posted on 06/28/2012 2:50:11 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Izzy Dunne
“It will go on his....... PERMANENT RECORD !!!”


And, will disappear in someone’s boot cut jeans. It happened in the Clinton administration. Sandy Berger, I think.
57 posted on 06/28/2012 2:53:45 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: PA Engineer

LaTourette - Ohio 14th District

I guess boffing your office manager eventually does wilt your mind. Can’t figure out this vote?


58 posted on 06/28/2012 2:55:12 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Osage Orange
This is Congress Not the Senate.

Uh.....'Congress' refers to both houses, collectively. The upper house of Congress is the Senate, and the lower house of Congress is the House of Representatives.

House
Senate

59 posted on 06/28/2012 2:55:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MplsSteve

“If he does it again, the next step will be DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!”


On a triple dog dare!


60 posted on 06/28/2012 2:59:08 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Windflier

where was Jesse Jackson , jr?


61 posted on 06/28/2012 2:59:23 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
The immediate impact of the House’s action – beyond any political repercussions – is almost nil. What’s likely next to happen, according Republican congressional sources, is that the lead House committee in the matter, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., will file civil suit in federal court, seeking a declaratory judgment that Holder is in contempt and an injunction ordering him to comply in turning over the documents. But that action could take years to be sorted out through any appeals process. The House also has the option of referring the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia for prosecution of Holder in federal court, but Republicans know the department would probably refuse to charge its own leader.

It's a symbolic gesture, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

62 posted on 06/28/2012 2:59:43 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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Big damned deal. What will happen to him because of this? They could have voted him in double, secret, super duper contempt and the world keeps turning and Holder just thumbs his nose and says “Kiss my contemptible ass, bitches. I got to go make sure Arizona ain’t violating the rights of my brown brothers. Later crackers.”


63 posted on 06/28/2012 3:00:07 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: lonevoice
It's a symbolic gesture, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

BINGO! The vast majority of the country won't even know it happened.

64 posted on 06/28/2012 3:01:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FreeAtlanta

I think he literally is a bastard. That being said the contempt holding has no real effect beyond expressing congressional frustration.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 3:02:12 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Old Sarge

Unless these two have a real good explaination they need to meet the Tea Party and find another line of work in November.


66 posted on 06/28/2012 3:11:16 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Rudder

Snowe and Collins are Senators not in the House


67 posted on 06/28/2012 3:13:48 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: Osage Orange
This was the House of Representatives. Believe “Congress” refers to both the House and the Senate.
68 posted on 06/28/2012 3:16:04 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: dfwgator

“Ya team”

Most importantly to the Aministration, the documents are not released and the Republicans can be shown the mere racists going after a poor downtrodden black man. Ain’t it great.


69 posted on 06/28/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Hunton Peck

Black congressional members walk out on vote. I see they have come a long way in their thinking since MLK!


70 posted on 06/28/2012 3:48:55 PM PDT by doc
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To: Hunton Peck

And of course, nothing will happen to him. He won’t be arrested, he will continue in office.


71 posted on 06/28/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: formosa

Screw that crap.

Extradite his ass to Mexico and let them deal with him.


72 posted on 06/28/2012 3:53:08 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Rudder
Two Republicans defected?

Snow and Collins?

Um, they're Senators. This was a House vote.

I'm glad to see this vote, but don't expect anything to happen. Holder's going nowhere unless Obama kicks him out.

73 posted on 06/28/2012 3:54:34 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Tupelo
I watched the vote on C-Span and they kept stating Holder was held in “Criminal Contempt”.

They stated it was a criminal charge against the United States.

74 posted on 06/28/2012 4:01:24 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Hunton Peck

.......so now what happens?


75 posted on 06/28/2012 4:03:28 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Thanks for the much-needed LOL! :-)


76 posted on 06/28/2012 4:04:12 PM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: IMR 4350

Hey I’d love nothing more than to see his evil a## in a Mexican prison, but we both know that will not happen. You know his human rights and all. There is no justice in Amerika.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 4:10:58 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: pollywog
.......so now what happens?

Absolutely nothing.

78 posted on 06/28/2012 4:11:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hunton Peck
Hey! National Review! When you (and the state controlled media), write about something like this; "The vote fell almost entirely along party lines, with just 17 Democratic defections and two Republican ones," you say, "the vote was bipartisan," if it was the democRATS/socialists/liberals that had won.

Do I detect a bias here, or you just needed more words to fill a column inch? Nah.

The Republic is in trouble folks. Our future is uncertain. We may be entering the twilight.

5.56mm

79 posted on 06/28/2012 4:25:28 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: X-spurt; Windflier
Geesh..........most folks refer to the House as "Congress"...and the Senate as the Senate.

But YES, you are both correct.

Stone me.

80 posted on 06/28/2012 4:26:59 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: RummyChick
He's in the Hospital.

No one is really saying why....

81 posted on 06/28/2012 4:29:04 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: kidd
Steven C. La Tourette [R/2] (Ohio)

~~~~~~~~~~

Scott Rigell [R/2] (Virginia)


82 posted on 06/28/2012 4:30:41 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: what's up

The Supreme court vote dooms Obama on many counts. The real important vote of the day was the House vote that held Attorney General, Eric Holder in criminal and civil comtempt of congrees!!! And.......all those “dirt bag” Dems marching out of the House during the vote should take a lesson from their “dirt bag” Democrats in Wisconsin that fled the state! Hello, Successful Governor Scott Walker, Republican!!!


83 posted on 06/28/2012 4:40:08 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Sybeck1

The Senate has nothing to do with this comtempt action against Holder.

Holder is in comtempt of the HOUSE oversight committee. Not a committee in the Senate.


84 posted on 06/28/2012 4:40:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Izzy Dunne

It will go on his....... PERMANENT RECORD !!!

Oh no! Not his permanent record! That will really mean a hill of beans.

The families of the dead need to destroy him.


85 posted on 06/28/2012 5:01:43 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: chris37

“Should get about .05 seconds on the news....”

So? Get out in your community, print up flyers, tack them on storefronts and trees and spread the truth.


86 posted on 06/28/2012 5:35:22 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: ridesthemiles

refer to 6


87 posted on 06/28/2012 5:48:57 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (John Roberts is the Anti Christ)
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To: sergeantdave

No thanks, not worth the effort, not going to waste even one second of my precious time trying to communicate to a bunch of morons about a bunch of morons.

I think I’ll play Civ 5, so much more productive.


88 posted on 06/28/2012 8:28:09 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Gabrial
I have no doubt that you heard ‘Criminal Contempt” and probably other things. But we are dealing with members of Congress, most of whom are lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut in Death Valley. I would not trust any of the 535 any further than I could throw them.
They will say anything or do anything to maintain their power or to gain an advantage.
Brian Terry and Jaime Zapada are now just pawns in the daily power struggle that is Washington District of Corruption.
I seriously doubt that anyone would even remember their names if not for the publicity and political advantage they can gain.
Screw the whole damn bunch.
89 posted on 06/28/2012 8:54:52 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: Osage Orange
most folks refer to the House as "Congress"...and the Senate as the Senate.

Maybe some folks dub in "House of Representatives" when they hear the word, Congress, but I'm not aware of anyone intentionally using that word to refer to the House only.

's alright, partner. I'm sure you've got it now.

90 posted on 06/28/2012 10:12:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Maybe some folks dub in "House of Representatives" when they hear the word, Congress

More like the "House of Representin'".........South Carolina, what's up?

91 posted on 06/28/2012 10:14:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator
More like the "House of Representin'"....

Gads, I hope I never hear someone actually say that.

92 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Don’t watch Idiocracy then.


93 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Osage Orange

Technically this is the House...Congress refers to both chambers.


94 posted on 06/28/2012 11:34:59 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Hunton Peck
House Finds Holder in Contempt: 17 Democrats and 2 Republicans break with their parties

So... 19 people voted to find Holder in contempt? *drumline*

If the Republicans as a party were serious about F&F they'd be focusing on things like: 1) it's a violation of treaty w/ Mexico, 2) it was an unauthorized act of war, 3) it was state sponsored terrorism, 4) it was arming cartels, and therefore aiding enemies of the several states, and therefore treason.

I have no respect anymore for the Republican Party: individuals, yes; the association, no.

95 posted on 06/29/2012 8:56:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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