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To: Windflier

I agree with your take on this. Roberts was playing King Solomon on this ruling. He acknowledged that this beast of a law is the product of politics and the ultimate resolution will be the product of politics. He took away the Democrats’ ability to force this through under the illegal use of the Commerce Clause.

He basically sent it back to the House and said, ok. If you want this monstrosity to stand, go back and get it the legal way, via Congress’ unlimited ability to tax. This is not the battle the Democrats wanted, for obvious reasons. Ginsburg has already been cited as saying she is very upset the Mandate did not stand under Commerce Clause. This ruling is very bad for us, but we still have the ability to fight it if the people have the will. We need a new Congress and desperately need to defeat Obama. That is all we have left.


559 posted on 06/28/2012 8:20:52 AM PDT by untwist
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To: untwist
He basically sent it back to the House and said, ok. If you want this monstrosity to stand, go back and get it the legal way, via Congress’ unlimited ability to tax.

So are you saying that ObamaCare now has to go back to Congress for approval as a TAX?

574 posted on 06/28/2012 8:25:09 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (You're screwy! You're spaced! You lost the recall race!)
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To: untwist
He took away the Democrats’ ability to force this through under the illegal use of the Commerce Clause.

And that's the upshot of this matter. The Commerce Clause has been eviscerated by this ruling. Now, the discussion is about a tax... on potentially anyone... in a recession..

IN AN ELECTION YEAR!!


576 posted on 06/28/2012 8:25:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: untwist
He basically sent it back to the House and said, ok. If you want this monstrosity to stand, go back and get it the legal way, via Congress’ unlimited ability to tax.

They did not say that. The law is not going back to the House to be rewritten as a tax. The Court said that the current law was within Congress' taxing power and so it is Constitutional.
580 posted on 06/28/2012 8:26:19 AM PDT by DaveInDallas
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To: untwist
Roberts was playing King Solomon on this ruling. He acknowledged that this beast of a law is the product of politics and the ultimate resolution will be the product of politics. He took away the Democrats’ ability to force this through under the illegal use of the Commerce Clause.

Good analysis. The power still remains with the People, i.e., the Congress.
589 posted on 06/28/2012 8:27:44 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: untwist

We FReepers have that will. Our Congress, as it continues to prove, cannot be counted on.


609 posted on 06/28/2012 8:33:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: untwist
This ruling is very bad for us, but we still have the ability to fight it if the people have the will. We need a new Congress and desperately need to defeat Obama. That is all we have left.

It's not all we have left, but pushing hard on Congress is certainly our first line of attack. I think you're going to quickly see that the people definitely have the will.

641 posted on 06/28/2012 8:44:38 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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