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With the options available, why did Obama choose to invoke executive privilege?
qando.ne ^ | 21 June, 2012 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 06/23/2012 6:31:20 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: ridesthemiles
You could be right, but I don't see anyone in congress going to get the rope.
41 posted on 06/23/2012 8:18:13 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: marktwain

I just want to know what Holder has on Obama that forced Obama to cowtow to this miserable little Pr!@k?


42 posted on 06/23/2012 8:21:47 PM PDT by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: garjog

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AT THE SCENE OF BRIAN TERRYS KILLING? WAS HIS THE ONLY BODY? IT SEEMS THAT ANYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE KILLING WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE THREE WEAPONS RATHER THAN LEAVE THEM. IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE AMERICAN AGENTS INVOLVED IN THE FIREFIGHT THE KILLERS MAY HAVE SIMPLY RUN TO EVADE OTHERS. BUT IF TERRY WAS THE ONLY AMERICAN PERSON THERE WHY LEAVE 3 WEAPONS?


43 posted on 06/23/2012 8:33:00 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: marktwain
We will never see those documents. They will mysteriously catch on fire or the building that they are stored in blows up. The only chance to see them is for Bonehead, on Wednesday, sets the House to vote on holding Holder in contempt. If he is squeezed he might break and if not it will tell us that King Obama is criminally responsible for F&F.
44 posted on 06/23/2012 8:42:54 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: marktwain

Reasonable Speculation:

0bama approved gunwalking knowing it would result in hundreds of dead Mexicans with American supplied guns so he could undermine the Bill of Rights (2nd Amendment) in America.

0bama lied, Federal Agents died.

That’s my theory of why this is big enough to require the exercise of Executive Priveledge.


45 posted on 06/23/2012 8:48:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Nobody died at Watergate. Who were Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata? (Post this on Facebook, everyone!))
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To: Meet the New Boss

In order to break the Constitution, one must maximize the tensions and contradictions inherent in the system in order to reach a breaking point.

Obama is practically begging for Congress to attack him for improperly usurping power beyond that legally permissible for a president.

He has declared that there are laws he will not enforce (DOMA) and recently unilaterally exempted entire classes of persons from Congressional law (Obamnesty).

He has now found an opportunity to challenge the very basis of Congress’ power to oversee the executive branch.
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I have read the above lines several times and unfortunately I have to agree with it. I do believe however that the strategy is flawed. Yes, we have dumbed down society so that they can’t take care of themselves, dumbed them down so that they don’t know the laws that govern our republic, but I’m thinking that they will not like someone ignoring their elected representatives in congress. I may be wrong but the next election will tell us if I am. If the people keep the House under Republican rule say goodbye to Mr. Obama and Alinsky. If Republicans take the Senate then Democrats are in a world of hurt.

I do believe that the press will taste the blood in the water and want to be the first to break the story. Yes they want to protect Obama but breaking the story of the century is just too much for a reporter to pass up.

The information Obama is protecting has to be damming. If not for the Executive Privilege Holder would have laughed at any action taken by congress against him. The Executive is a different branch of government, they can’t enforce anything against Holder, Holder is the one who executes the laws and Holder should have just laughed at congress at least until after the elections. I don’t believe there is enough time before the election to get the Supreme court to rule against Holder. Certainly in an impeachment trial the Democrat controlled Senate would not convict. So why the Executive Privilege? I think it has to be Alinskys rules. The One is trying to create a constitutional crisis the likes of which we haven’t seen since Fort Sumter. I don’t know what will happen but I do know that a lot depends on the press, that gives me a bad feeling.


46 posted on 06/23/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: marktwain

No way he did this to protect Holder. 0baMugabe is tied by his tiny nads to F&F or something totally unacceptable for public consumption in these documents.


47 posted on 06/23/2012 9:46:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)
48 posted on 06/23/2012 10:16:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
There were more agents. I'm not sure how many but I think I heard four.

Here is the best description of fast & furious from the beginning that I've ever seen. It needs updating though because it doesn't go all the way to today. But it is very very good.

"Fast and Furious" scam has Obama and Holder sweating...bullets!

49 posted on 06/23/2012 11:41:55 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: marktwain
Why?

My WAG is that Holder knows too much that could be used against Ø. Long-form Birth certificate anyone? College transcripts?

Stuff like that.



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50 posted on 06/23/2012 11:52:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: Quickgun
I think Holder has the goods on Obama. Obama is between a rock and a hard place. He can’t afford to diss Holder, and he can’t let those documents be seen, either. He fires Holder, and Holder will spill the beans. Executive privilege is not going to work in this case,you are correct. But they had already got themselves in a corner and he decided to gamble.

Perhaps when Holder told Congress he had "superior knowledge", it was his way of letting the WH know that his back better be covered or somone else's a$$ would be bared...

51 posted on 06/24/2012 3:38:40 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Quickgun

I call it Holder’s under the bus stop.


52 posted on 06/24/2012 3:42:23 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“They are so arrogant, yet so amateurish, they think they can get away with misdirection or changing the subject, or war on women or millionaires and billionaires or social justice, or green jobs, or policemen and teachers, anything to change the topic matter.”

It has always worked for them before. Between the race card and the protective MSM, they have always gotten away with it before.


53 posted on 06/24/2012 3:49:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Meet the New Boss
Obama is practically begging for Congress to attack him for improperly usurping power beyond that legally permissible for a president.

Yes, he is, and you know, it just might work for him.

You make the essential point - that "Obama" is not incompetent, he's trying very hard to do a good job and for the most part succeeding - its just that the job he's trying to do is to destroy the USA as it existed prior to his presidency, and if you rate him using conventional criteria you won't understand him at all.

Since he's a breaker, removing him or limiting the damage using tactics within the system that he despises may not work.

54 posted on 06/24/2012 3:52:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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To: Texas Songwriter; All
IT SEEMS THAT ANYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE KILLING WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE THREE WEAPONS RATHER THAN LEAVE THEM.

I have seen it posted that the standard operating procedure for the cartels is that if you are involved in a shoot out, when leaving it, drop the weapon and leave it at the scene so that it cannot be connected to you.

Once you have left the scene, you have no weapon, so if you are apprehended, you can say you were not involved. Given the American rules of engagement, you have no weapon, so you will not be shot. It is plausible.

55 posted on 06/24/2012 4:00:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

LOL.. Issa’s bus is coming for the both of them.


56 posted on 06/24/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

LOL.. Issa’s bus is coming for the both of them.


57 posted on 06/24/2012 8:56:25 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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