[NonValueAdded]

Surely a bureaucracy like the DOJ produced a Concept of Operations "ConOps" document for F&F. I'd be astonished if there wasn't one. It would answer the simple (and therefore unanswerable) question "how did you possibly think you would track these weapons?"

Obviously the Bush program had a working model of operations and when the bad guys caught on, they shut it down. Now let's hear from Holder.

[tired&retired]

And the ease at which both O’Bummer and Holder lied to the people about it to cover their arses! Sad. Really Sad.

[opentalk]

...Under Bush program 1400 arrests were made. Interesting First I have heard this.

Wonder how many were made under Obama Fast and Furious, which was a bigger operation.

[Sans-Culotte]

I have yet to hear any of Obamugabe's defenders explain how F & F could possibly have worked, or even what they think it was even trying to accomplish. Only two possibilities exist:

1.) Rush is right, and this was all about depriving us of our 2nd amendment rights, or,

2.) The DOJ and Holder are a bunch of dumbasses who caused people's deaths by forgetting to track the weapons and work with authorities.

Neither scenario is flattering to the administration.

[opentalk]

Wow, later in transcript. None arrested under F&F, 1400 arrested in Bush wide receiver

If true, proof they had ulterior motives.

[dragnet2]

The Bush administration, as part of Wide Receiver, notified the Mexican government when arms and drug smugglers were crossing. When the guns were being walked across the border or when they had been purchased legally, being taken back to Mexico, the Mexican government was notified. At least 1,400 arrests were made as part of Wide Receiver. Now, once ATF found out the smugglers were disabling the tracking devices, the RFID tracking devices that were planted in the guns, they ripped them out and then the guns were lost. So the program was shut down in October of 2007. Once the bad guys discovered the tracking devices, the program was ended, in 2007.

Lets see, the cartels are worth billions, they control much of the Mexican government, and Bush/DOJ didn't think they'd find the tracking devises?

Did the DOJ/AFT/Bush not think cartels electronically swept nearly everything going into their compounds, with off the shelf readily available technology?

Did they not think super corrupt Mexican cops/officials who are on the cartels payrolls would not inform the cartels?

Were they joking?

Then Obama comes along and does what he did?

They all need to be thrown in prison.

[biggredd1]

holder lied, mexicans died! soetoro lied, mexicans fried! holder & soetoro lied, need to be tried!

[dblshot]

So why haven’t a bunch of gunshop owners been pulled into hearings to put face on this joke? “The Feds told me to go ahead and sell to this guy I knew wasn’t koshar.”

[Hotlanta Mike]

[ProfoundMan]

Good discussion of the differences between Wide Receiver and F&F as well as a great retrospective interview with Dave Workman from GunTalk 11-30-2011.

Workman proves to be quite prescient.

[NEMDF]

Thanks for posting. This was as clear and succinct of an explanation as exists anywhere for the differences between the two programs. Excellent. Too bad the media is not interested.

[hoosiermama]

Under Bush program 1400 arrests were made

Under -0 at least two American LEO and hundred of Mexican DEAD.

[TigersEye]

Rush is up to speed on this. I didn't notice any material mistakes and he's hitting all the right sore points.

Go, Rush! Hammer that jug-eared lying Marxist!!!

[cookcounty]

This was totally excellent.

I'd like to see a full article on this,with sources. Anybody know where that can be found? The facts are probably all on Sipsey, but a direct comparison in one article, with sources cited, I have not yet seen. Please,,,SOMEBODY.....do this!