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The issue on my heart, Sister, is whether or not it is necessary to support Israel even if it requires supporting sin to do so.

So far as I’m concerned, Romney promotes terrible sin with his anti-life and pro-gay agenda stands.

Even though it adds danger to Israel not to support Romney, should I ignore the sin because support for Israel is decreed by God even if it requires one to engage in terrible sin to do so?

That is my dilemma.

So, whether I should support Israel in normal circumstances is a given. I should. I have no need to explore that question.

Should I support them if it requires me to engage in terrible sin to do so.

Sadly, Israel also practices abortion. I haven’t checked, but I suppose, their being liberal in so many things, that they are also advocates of the gay agenda. I don’t know.

So, the real issue for me is not whether the Bible teaches support for Israel. That’s a given. There’s no point in studying that.

What I want to know is if there are EXCEPTIONS to supporting Israel, and, in particular, if one means of supporting Israel includes terrible evil as part of that means, then does the bible require support for Israel by that evil means.

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

Even though it adds danger to Israel not to support Romney, should I ignore the sin because support for Israel is decreed by God even if it requires one to engage in terrible sin to do so?

That is my dilemma.

There is merit to that old adage that "misery loves company." Thank you for your understanding.

When I survey the history of mankind, I see nations that cursed Israel being cursed themselves just as God warned would happen, e.g. Canaan, Egypt, Philistine, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Rome, Germany.

I do not want that fate for America.

Yet I also see that God has used nations such as these to accomplish His will albeit at great cost to them. For instance, Egypt sheltered Israel and then exploited them - and God hardened the Pharaoh's heart to show His power. Egypt will never be the same.

Likewise, Babylon served God's purpose. Even Nebuchadnezzar was permitted to praise God. (Daniel 4). Babylon was destroyed when God called Cyrus to do so.

I also truly believe Alexander the Great's conquest of the civilized world was according to God's plan. After the dust settled, the Greek language was normalized and word-concepts were in currency which would later accelerate the spreading of the Gospel. And yet He preserved the original Hebrew Scriptures by the Essenes sect and today we have the Dead Sea Scrolls confirming the antiquity and authenticity of Scripture.

That, even though Greece legalized infanticide for political gain:

Yet another type of government killing whose victims may total millions is infanticide. In many cultures government permitted, if not encouraged, the killing of handicapped or female infants, or otherwise unwanted children. In the Greece of 200 B.C., for example, the murder of female infants was so common that among 6,000 families living in Delphi no more than 1 percent had two daughters.¹¹⁶ Among 79 families near as many had one child as two. Among all there were only 28 daughters to 118 sons.¹¹⁷ Unwanted children

were thrown into rivers, dung heaps, and cesspools. Wild animals were everywhere. Feeding upon children was part of their sustenance, as Euripides noted in his play Ion, "A prey for birds, food for wild beasts, too. . ." . . . .

Cities became deserted and the land became barren. Family life was disappearing.¹¹⁸

Indeed, the law demanded that imperfect children must be killed; and someone thus even wrote a text on How to Recognize a Newborn That Is Worth Rearing.¹¹⁹

But classical Greece was not unusual. In eighty-four societies spanning the Renaissance to our time, "defective" children have been killed in one-third of them.¹²⁰ And in India, because of Hindu beliefs and the rigid caste system, young girls would be murdered as a matter of course. With the collection of demographic statistics in the 19th century, it was discovered that in "some villages, no girl babies were found at all; in a total of thirty others, there were 343 boys to 54 girls. . . in Bombay, the number of girls alive in 1834 was 603. . . ."¹²¹ Such infanticide is usually a singular event. It does not happen en masse. But the accumulation of such officially sanctioned or demanded murders comprise, in effect, serial massacre. Since such practices were so pervasive in some cultures, I suspect that the death toll must exceed that from mass sacrifice and perhaps even outright mass murder.¹²²

Pre-20^th Century Democide

It is truly a dilemma for me.

The only no-brainer is that casting a vote "for" Obama would entail me not only in abortion and infanticide but also in cursing Israel.

A vote "for" Romney would entail me in blessing Israel. But his newly professed pro-life position is untested.

Likewise, a vote "for" a third party like Goode would be largely based on untested positions.

Concerning the treatment of Israel, abortion, infanticide, euthanasia and the homosexual - it seems to me that many in the worldwide community of people who call themselves Christian are at risk of falling away. Way too many of them no longer take God seriously. They don't believe what He has said - how else can we explain complicit behavior among the clergy?

And if the clergy no longer loves God or believes Him or trusts Him - how quickly many in the laity will follow!

Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Th 2:3

Maranatha, Jesus!!!