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Jeb Bush is wrong: Ronald Reagan could have won the 2012 Republican nomination easily
The Great Britain (UK) Telegraph ^ | June 11th, 2012 | By Tim Stanley

Posted on 06/11/2012 9:34:32 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Jeb Bush says that if Ronald Reagan was alive today he would struggle to win the Republican presidential nomination. I should think so – the great man would be 101 (that gag is copyrighted to Jonah Goldberg).

What Bush meant was that Reagan’s history of compromise with Democrats would make him unacceptable to the GOP base. He told Bloomberg reporters that Reagan and Bush's father, President George HW Bush, "got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support. [Reagan] would be criticized for doing the things that he did.” The remark is electoral gold for Obama as it conforms to the narrative of Republican extremism vs Democratic centrism. It confirms a widely held view that the GOP, thanks to the Tea Party, is more Rightwing than ever before. Ronald Reagan would struggle to get nominated today and George HW Bush wouldn't have a hope in Hell.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; bush; election2012; reagan
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To: ansel12

I agree with your take on it.


21 posted on 06/11/2012 10:35:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Bush family, thank you for those positive things you did, now shut up and go away. You have passed the point of diminishing returns.


22 posted on 06/11/2012 10:54:41 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: US Navy Vet

Reagan returned might well win as a left Democrat. His persona and his approach- a couple of strong issues persistently and without sidelining- were a big part of that. Then again, I can’t imagine any liberal with Reagan’s persona. When your ideology is fantasy you can’t easily project it with firm conviction and that firm conviction is awfully difficult to fake.


23 posted on 06/11/2012 10:59:32 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: cdcdawg
Bush family, thank you for those positive things you did, now shut up and go away. You have passed the point of diminishing returns.

The Bushes hate Reagan. Nuff said.

24 posted on 06/11/2012 11:01:09 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: US Navy Vet
"Jeb Bush is wrong."

Isn't that redundant?

25 posted on 06/11/2012 11:02:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: cdcdawg

And just WHAT were these “Positive Things” the Bush Family did? Name a few?


26 posted on 06/11/2012 11:05:47 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I was really just trying to be polite, but there are a few things. I’ll give GHWB credit for assembling a coalition for Gulf War Part One, though he didn’t finish the job. He put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, when he could have bailed on him. W was a strong leader in the aftermath of 9/11, put two solid Justices on the Court, and his tax cuts were a good thing. He also kept Al Gore and John Kerry from becoming President. Jeb was a reasonably good governor of Florida. Yep, it’s a pretty short list.


27 posted on 06/11/2012 11:24:27 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: US Navy Vet

If you cant think of any there is something seriously wrong with you


28 posted on 06/11/2012 11:28:04 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Digger

BS


29 posted on 06/11/2012 11:29:27 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Spoken like a TRUE BushBot!


30 posted on 06/11/2012 11:30:20 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Jeb Bush is a fool.


31 posted on 06/11/2012 11:31:44 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Of course, Reagan could sail to the top and get elected - twice to boot!

It's George HW that, in hind sight could not get the top spot after Reagan but he ran on "this will be the Reagan third term." Never happened and that's why GHWB couldn't win his second term against Clinton.

Never forget, GHWB's famous, "Read my lips, no new taxes," and lied!!!

Sorry Jebby, it's you and the rest of your moderate GOP, pro-amnesty, family that couldn't get the nomination!

W fought the war against the "religion of peace" thank God and placed pro-life justices in place but other than those things for which I will be eternally grateful, the Bush family are not what America needs today.

32 posted on 06/11/2012 11:46:16 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Forty-Niner; Slump Tester

>> “HW should have said FUUN, but as an honorable/ethical man HW didn’t.” <<

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You’re dreaming 49er. - No Bonesman is an honorable man. He took a blood oath to favor his lodge and brothers over truth and the general good.

It doesn’t matter how the people vote; Masons and Bonesmen are put in power to do the kinds of things that Bush and Boehner and Clinton do.

The dems need no ‘cover,’ the media are in their pockets; the agenda is all that matters.
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33 posted on 06/11/2012 11:46:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: zerosix

2 Words for all of “W’s” “pro-life justices”, “Harriet Miers”.


34 posted on 06/11/2012 11:49:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Forty-Niner

“HW’s biggest fault was in believing the Donks were patriots, instead of the partisan socialist liars they were.The the future, especially since the advent of Obama, such naivete in a president is a luxury we can no longer afford.”

I would have to disagree that George H.W. Bush was a naive man.

The following words are those of a man of purpose, who fully knows what he intends to accomplish.

From President George H.W. Bush’s New World Order Speech.

“A new partnership of nations has begun, and we stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment! The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation! Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge: A new era—freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, east and west, north and south, can prosper and live in harmony.

A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor, and today that new world is struggling to be born. A world quite different from the one we’ve known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak.

This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki! He and the other leaders from Europe, the gulf and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come!”


35 posted on 06/11/2012 11:51:30 AM PDT by ngat
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To: cdcdawg

>> “Bush family, thank you for those positive things you did” <<

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Could you name a dozen or so of them?
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36 posted on 06/11/2012 11:52:13 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: cdcdawg; US Navy Vet

>> “ Jeb was a reasonably good governor of Florida” <<

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Then why is Terry Schiavo dead?
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37 posted on 06/11/2012 11:55:17 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: woofie

If you can think of any you’re deluded.
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38 posted on 06/11/2012 11:57:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: ngat

“I would have to disagree that George H.W. Bush was a naive man.”

Oh really????

You post goes a long way to illustrate his naivete.


39 posted on 06/11/2012 12:18:12 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: ngat; Forty-Niner
“HW’s biggest fault was in believing the Donks were patriots, instead of the partisan socialist liars they were.”

I would have to disagree that George H.W. Bush was a naive man.

The other possible theory is that he knew and didn't care. Is that the theory you prefer?

40 posted on 06/11/2012 12:26:33 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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