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Michelle Obama sponsors Navy’s first submarine with all-female crew
the hill ^ | may 28, 2012 | carlo munoz

Posted on 05/28/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by beebuster2000

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To: SuziQ; Hetty_Fauxvert
I think this may be an experiment worth trying.

What purpose does it serve?
161 posted on 05/29/2012 1:30:22 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Females have been on PCO tours for the past two years.


162 posted on 05/30/2012 2:26:59 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: houeto

I asked for serious responses. You failed.


163 posted on 05/30/2012 2:27:39 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rottndog

What we have here in your response is a failure of imagination.

The object is to get the sub supplied. Just because it was done one way in the past does not mean that it has to be done the same way in the future.


164 posted on 05/30/2012 2:30:56 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: mylife

Time will tell if your assertion is true.

Are you willing to eat crow if proven incorrect?


165 posted on 05/30/2012 2:32:45 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

So...you think after more than 100 years, the submarine force has failed to ‘imagine’ a better way of loading stores on the boat?

BTW, what other of the tens of thousands of tasks that are routinely performed on a submarine are going to have to be ‘re-imagined’ to allow women to perform them? And, by the very fact that you have to ask that question, aren’t you acknowledging women can’t do the job?

Again the question....How is submarine warfighting readiness improved by the inclusion of women?


166 posted on 05/30/2012 8:19:56 AM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
I asked for serious responses. You failed.

I didn't fail because you weren't asking me. Your question was addressed to another poster. I only chimed in for the fun of it. ;-)

167 posted on 05/30/2012 9:57:54 AM PDT by houeto (FReepathon 2Q! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jeff Gordon

“PCO tours”???

Not familiar with the term.

Are you saying that Females have been crewmembers on US submarines for the past two years?


168 posted on 05/30/2012 1:31:54 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege

PCO = Perspective Commanding Officer

Yes, woman have been serving on subs since 2008.

http://www.subsim.com/new_york_times_sub_article.htm


169 posted on 05/31/2012 3:35:19 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rottndog

You continue to show a failure of imagination.

Just because something has been done one way for weeks, years or decades does not mean that way is the only or even the best way to do the task.

If cops had failures of imagination like you then they would still be carrying .38 Specials.


170 posted on 05/31/2012 3:42:08 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

“The first female officers began serving aboard submarines last November... “

From article dated May 24, 2012

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/smooth-sailing-for-first-women-to-serve-on-navy-submarines/

I found lots of articles dated 2010 talking about PLANS, but nothing about full-time crew members.

“The current program allows female officers to serve on large ballistic and guided missile submarines, but not on the smaller, fast-attack submarines. Participating via phone link, Vice Adm. John Richardson, commander, submarine forces, said no decisions have been made about whether to allow women to serve on the attack submarines or to expand the program and allow enlisted women to also serve in the submarine force.”

Reading between the lines, I’d say what he really wanted to say was, “This Administration and the political hacks at the Pentagon are pushing us to expand this to attack boats and enlisted. We are fighting it tooth & nail.”

So, no trained enlisted, let alone experienced personnel or NCO leadership.

All around stupid idea, designed to degrade the effectiveness of the US military and gain “brownie” points with college girls. The Democrats talk about the Republican’s “War on Women”, yet the Democrats seem to want “War Waged by Women”.


171 posted on 05/31/2012 7:47:02 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: CrazyIvan

“As I recall there was a female pilot that the brass moved
ahead too quickly because of feminist pressure. She ended up
dead.”

I went through Flight School in Pensacola with the first 4 women Naval Aviators. One already had 800 hours civilian time and was OK. They really bent the rules for some of the others. A man would have been washed out several times for doing what these ladies did.

They all four ended up with their names on the wall at the Air & Space Museum at the Smithsonian.

DISCRIMINATION! Where’s my name? I had better grades at flight school! ;-)


172 posted on 05/31/2012 7:59:25 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: bikerman

You owe me a new keyboard!


173 posted on 05/31/2012 8:09:11 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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