Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: archy

“Anybody know why they were considering .276 caliber?”


10 posted on 05/18/2012 11:12:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Travis McGee

I don’t have a definitive answer, but it appears that after The Great War there was a line of thought among the various War Departments that a .30 caliber cartridge was more powerful than necessary for most purposes, and a .276 cartridge was adequate and, being lighter, lessened the load carried by an infantryman.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 11:24:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee

For the same reason we still are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.8_mm_Remington_SPC


16 posted on 05/18/2012 11:38:34 AM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee
“Anybody know why they were considering .276 caliber?”

There was at the time, and still is btw, a school of thought that the .27 caliber is about the ideal for combat purposes.

Hence the drive to 'upsize' the 5.56 to 6.5 mm (.255 caliber).

22 posted on 05/18/2012 12:02:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee

The British before WWI had decided to go to the 7mm and developed a new rifle, the pattern 14 Enfield for it. Their decision might have been greatly influenced by the fact that the South African Boers used the 7mm Mauser with great effect against them around the turn of the century.

When WWI began, the decision was made to stick with the .303 to prevent supply problems. I think I have read that Churchill himself made the decision.

The pattern 14 was chambered for .303 and contracts made to have it built in America. When the U.S. got involved in the war, we could not provide enough 03 Springfields and the decision was made to modify the Enfield for the 30-06, thus the 1917 Enfield.


25 posted on 05/18/2012 12:15:30 PM PDT by yarddog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee
It sounds as though metalurgy at the time may have been a consideration...

...from Wikipedia:

"At the time of its introduction, the .276 Pedersen was a solution to a significant problem. The US Army wanted a general issue autoloading rifle that would fire the .30-06 cartridge, but such a rifle was prohibitively large with existing designs such as the Browning Automatic Rifle and French Chauchat. A weapon of the same weight as the M1903 needed to fire a smaller cartridge. Pedersen's cartridge was viewed as a compromise as it was underpowered compared to most military rifle cartridges. This decreased recoil energy made possible a reliable, lightweight semi-automatic rifle with existing technology. Despite these early problems with semi-automatic designs, Garand's design was eventually able to handle the .30-06 cartridge; the need for a lighter caliber dissolved. The Pedersen rifle was unsuitable for the .30-06 and it, too, was dropped."

46 posted on 05/18/2012 7:24:14 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.276_Pedersen


54 posted on 05/18/2012 9:53:48 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Travis McGee

See my previous posts above. The real irony is that the great bulk of WWI production .30 caliber ball had unannealled case necks, and by WWII case neck fractures were frequent enough that most of the older *war reserve* ammo was unusable in the automatic actions of .30 Brownings, BARs- and M1 Garands. A good deal of it was burned up in training, though, and served for stateside guard purposes.


68 posted on 05/19/2012 11:57:30 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson