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Romney: Gay couples should have right to adopt
The Washington Post ^ | May 10, 2012 | Felicia Sonmez

Posted on 05/10/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (R) said Thursday that he believes gay couples should be allowed to adopt children, even as he reiterated his view that marriage is defined as a relationship between a man and a woman.

In an interview with Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network, Romney was asked whether he believes the gay marriage debate is a new civil rights movement, as some Democrats have framed the issue.

“I don’t see it in that light,” Romney responded. “I believe my record as a person who has supported civil rights is strong and powerful. At the same time, I believe that marriage has been defined the same way for literally thousands of years by virtually every civilization in history and that marriage is by its definition a relationship between a man and woman.”

He added that “if two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, even want to adopt a child — in my state, individuals of the same sex are able to adopt children. In my view, that’s something which people have the right to do, but to call that marriage is, in my view, a departure from the real meaning of the word.”

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KEYWORDS: adoption; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; romney; romney2012; romneytruthfile; samesexadoption
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To: P-Marlowe; kevcol
Romney will be our Jimmy Carter and the first shot at a conservative executive branch will be no sooner than 2020.

Those professing an 4 years of Obamao gloom and doom scenario if we don’t vote for Willard fail to understand that the deeper threat is moving the [R] party light years to the left and marginalizing Conservatives. We can survive 4 years of gridlock while resisting socialism tooth and nail, not 4 years of redefining the party to a point where its socialist itself. If Willard is elected, the GOP-e will have the “mandate” its always wanted: telling Conservatives to sit down, shut up, and “evolve”.

Awesome insightful comments by both of you.

Thanks

201 posted on 05/11/2012 8:33:35 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: kevcol

Very well stated. Thank you.


202 posted on 05/11/2012 8:35:01 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: little jeremiah

And you base your “information” based on what evidence? Have you spent any time in the foster care system? Or are you basing your “information” solely on your own bias? I can tell how you feel about things based on the disrespectful way you portray homosexuals. I’m not on any “gay bandwagon”. I just recognize that these people are children of God and deserve to be treated with respect just as any other person. Add to that, I’m all about assessing individual people on a case by case basis - not lumping them into one group. I’ve been working with the Foster Care system for over a decade. Believe me when I tell you that hetereosexuals are just as capable (and by far in my area are the most culpable)of hurting a child in the most savage and unimaginable ways. I made it quite clear that same sex couples may not be the optimal arrangement for a child, but it sure beats the alternative.


203 posted on 05/11/2012 8:41:51 AM PDT by rscully ("You cannot change a mind with logic that was made up without the use thereof." --DelphiUser's Dad.)
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To: kevcol

Only wildcard is SCOTUS appointments, were teetering on the edge now.

Of course there’s no guarantee of a sane choice with Mittens either.


204 posted on 05/11/2012 8:43:50 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: CitizenUSA

I am in agreement with you in making sure that no government agency mandates gay adoption to the inclusion of religious organizations and makes it so that they need to go belly up. What I was specifically referencing is the fact that gay couples can make good parents. Not optimal, but certainly stable and loving. And in the absence of more straight couples making the effort to become foster/adoptive parents, we will see more non-traditional families filling the vacuum. You make take my post as a call to action - talk the talk, then walk the walk. The foster care system needs good families like yours.


205 posted on 05/11/2012 8:49:14 AM PDT by rscully ("You cannot change a mind with logic that was made up without the use thereof." --DelphiUser's Dad.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I am in agreement with you in making sure that no government agency mandates gay adoption to the inclusion of religious organizations and makes it so that they need to go belly up. What I was specifically referencing is the fact that gay couples can make good parents. Not optimal, but certainly stable and loving. And in the absence of more straight couples making the effort to become foster/adoptive parents, we will see more non-traditional families filling the vacuum. You make take my post as a call to action - talk the talk, then walk the walk. The foster care system needs good families like yours.


206 posted on 05/11/2012 8:49:19 AM PDT by rscully ("You cannot change a mind with logic that was made up without the use thereof." --DelphiUser's Dad.)
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To: cva66snipe

I agree (and am also frustrated) with liberal activist judges and social workers who put thier own agendas ahead of the best interests of the children they are supposed to protect. I have cried many tears over some of the children I had to turn over to thier straight parents, who within months returned to the system even more worse for wear because of the savagery inflicted upon them (I mean this in the physical assault and sexual assault context, btw). But this is a result of the system as a whole - it has nothing to do with the ability of homosexual couples being able to lovingly raise kids nobody else wants (btw, it breaks my heart as I write this, because it’s true). I have yet to see, in my 15 years, EVEN ONE case of abuse by homosexual parents. Does it happen? I’m sure it does. But I haven’t seen one case of it in my area. I have, however, seen plenty of abuse by straight parents. You’re right,there are straight couples waiting to adopt - but there aren’t enough. If more were to step up to the plate, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Be the change you want to be in the world and ask your wonderful family to support you in signing up to be a foster parent.


207 posted on 05/11/2012 9:02:39 AM PDT by rscully ("You cannot change a mind with logic that was made up without the use thereof." --DelphiUser's Dad.)
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To: rscully; TheOldLady

TOL - please take care of this person. He’s pushing the homosexual agenda. He wants “gay people” to adopt children. In fact normal people are worse foster parents according to him. One page of his comments goes to 2008, second page takes you to 2002 and he was supporting Romney in half or a third of this comments.

But the slamming those who object to the homosexual agenda and pushing it are way over the line. Way, way over the line.


208 posted on 05/11/2012 9:35:47 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: rscully

Are you a homosexual yourself? Is that why you a pushing their agenda? Or are you just stupid? Or a liberal?


209 posted on 05/11/2012 9:37:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: rscully; little jeremiah; darkwing104; 50mm; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; Lazamataz; ...

So long, rscully (Posting History)
Hat Tip to little jeremiah
Pro-pervert troll trips over a normal person and falls on a live wire - VK noms coming right up





We are pro marriage - heterosexual only



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

210 posted on 05/11/2012 10:09:06 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rscully; little jeremiah

” Believe me when I tell you that hetereosexuals are just as capable (and by far in my area are the most culpable)of hurting a child in the most savage and unimaginable ways. I made it quite clear that same sex couples may not be the optimal arrangement for a child, but it sure beats the alternative.”

No, it does NOT. Thou art a fool, or a troll!!


211 posted on 05/11/2012 10:18:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Have you forgotten the Catholic adoption agencies that were put out of business because they wouldn’t let gays adopt? You or I might agree adoption agencies should operate as they see fit, but the left will have none of that.

The Catholic agencies that folded did so because the government said they would cut off funding. The Baptist agencies I mentioned in earlier posts do not adopt to homosexuals, neither do they accept tax payer money.

212 posted on 05/11/2012 10:21:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: TheOldLady

Whew! Thank you.

I miss the FR feature that allowed holding the cursor over a person’s screen name and you could see how many comments they had total. An older date and hardly any comments were always a clue.


213 posted on 05/11/2012 11:00:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Hilda

Guess Romney doesn’t read the Gospel of St. Matthew often ~ if at all ~


214 posted on 05/11/2012 11:03:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rscully
When you lump everybody into that amorphous 'Children of God' you end up confounding the good and the bad.

That's an intolerable attitude.

It is the right thing to do to distinguish between people.

215 posted on 05/11/2012 11:05:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rscully
You don't see cases of abuse with homosexual parents because: (1) They make darned sure you don't now about it, (2) There are very few homosexual parents, (3) You don't encounter all of them.
216 posted on 05/11/2012 11:08:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rscully
You don't see cases of abuse with homosexual parents because: (1) They make darned sure you don't know about it, (2) There are very few homosexual parents, (3) You don't encounter all of them.
217 posted on 05/11/2012 11:08:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TheOldLady
Thank You for the ping TOL!

A parting gift for the pro-pervert zottee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

218 posted on 05/11/2012 12:04:55 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

You’re welcome.


219 posted on 05/11/2012 12:38:38 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: P-Marlowe
They are both consumed by their own self importance and neither of them are qualified to lead a boy scout troop much less the United States Military.

Yes, I wouldn't want to send my sons on an overnight trip with either of them. Romney wouldn't use a compass, but would take an opinion poll of the boys as to which way they should go. Barry would start the trip by searching the bags to make sure no unauthorized items were being brought on the trip including matches or weapons. Then he would conduct a pre-trip anti-bullying, pro-gay re-education seminar.

220 posted on 05/11/2012 12:48:11 PM PDT by Elvina ("My den is much safer than being out here when the sky is falling." said Foxy Mitt Loxy)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
131 posted on Thu May 10 2012 23:49:23 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by chuck_the_tv_out: “Liberal on evolution, liberal on homosexuality. People claim to be liberal in one confined area. ‘Oh, I just believe this one thing about evolution, but otherwise I’m a hardcore conservative,’ they say. Bull. Wet in one area, wet in others.”

I know nothing about your background, but here's mine. I spent a good part of a decade fighting “theistic evolution” in the Christian Reformed Church caused by the Howard Van Till controversy. The local presbytery of the denomination to which I now belong, the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, voted unanimously to send an anti-evolution statement to the general synod; the biggest concern voiced was that the request didn't have enough “teeth” and should have been stronger. In other words, I have credibility to comment on the issue of evolution; I've done the fighting and I've seen the damage.

In theory I could agree with you. Social Darwinism, euthanasia, birth control, and abortion are all linked to a Hegelian dialectic from the 19th Century with seriously evil roots.

The problem is that many people don't understand those roots, and many others are inconsistent. It simply is not true that everyone who accepts some form of evolution also advocates baby-killing, zero-population-growth, and communist economics.

We need to be very careful that we don't assume that people think things through to their logical conclusions. That is especially true with something like evolution which is now commonly assumed rather than argued about. I think it would be fair to say that many conservatives who don't regularly deal with the fields of science or theology haven't thought enough about evolution to even raise questions about whether it is legitimate.

That is especially true in American politics where we have to get to 50 percent to win elections. I am not going to run around attacking the conservative credentials of a candidate who supports evolution; all that will do is make Republicans look ridiculous to people who should be voting for us. On the other hand, I'm perfectly willing to discuss the issues quietly and privately with someone who shares my belief in an inerrant Bible.

221 posted on 05/11/2012 12:54:36 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: rscully; TheOldLady; little jeremiah; All
What is happening on Free Republic? This guy had a 1999 signup. Another of the posters advocating similar things is an early signup as well.

Anyone who has been around that long has been around long enough to know better than to advocate homosexual adoption around here. This is not a libertarian or secular conservative site where such views might be okay; this is a conservative site and opposition to homosexuality is not secret around here.

I can think of only three logical explanations:

1. Someone has been hacking very old Free Republic accounts whose posters have abandoned them or haven't used them for a long time.

2. Some very old secular conservative Freepers who didn't get zotted in the McCain or Guiliani days think now that it's okay to support Romney, they can come out of the woodwork and post wild stuff.

3. A group of geriatric Freepers are coming down with early onset Alzheimers.

222 posted on 05/11/2012 1:36:10 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t think the problem facing faith-based adoption agencies was just funding. These agencies have to be licensed as well. As I recall, agencies that would not place children on a “nondiscriminatory” basis in Illinois could not be licensed.


223 posted on 05/11/2012 1:44:04 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: P-Marlowe; KC Burke; First_Salute; xzins; markomalley; Alamo-Girl; wagglebee; little jeremiah; ...
At this point I fear a 4 year Romney term as being at least as bad as a 4 year lame duck Obama term. Romney offers nothing different from Obama than the color of his skin.

I'm just getting back here after a week's absence (having to do with family elder care), and am not up on everything that has transpired in my absence.

Notwithstanding, dear P-Marlowe, the above italics struck me as just plain nutz.

For openers, I think it useful for you to consider that there is no such thing as a second-term "lame-duck" presidency where Obama is concerned. If anything, if Obama is reelected to a second term in office, he would be even more active in deconstructing the American order than he was in his first term.

This is a guy whose model of governance is the King and his Court. (I.e., Executive Orders and hand-picked "Left Progressive" staffing of the executive departments of government that write the regulations by which we all must abide, without having to consult with Congress first.)

And let the Constitution be damned if it gets in his way. And he has legions of enablers and crony codependents, inside and outside of government, to help him succeed in the implementation of this new model of American government.

Secondly, most definitely, Obama is a quintessential example of narcissist personality. I agree with you there. But in comparison, how on earth have you come to identify Romney as a narcissist? Give me just one example of narcissist behavior on Romney's part. Just ONE. Then maybe I can credit what you are alleging.

I think you may be living in some kind of strange fantasy land, or second reality. You and the coterie of like-minded Romney detractors who have been holding forth at FR in recent times. It seems to me you have constructed a straw man out of the odds and ends of your hyperbolic imagination, a caricature of the man, so you can beat him with a stick with impunity — and mainly because you detest his theology.

I already know that you and your friends will vociferously deny this. Because such behavior as fundamentally unAmerican — we being a people who, in our history, have respected the principle of religious toleration.

It appears that you and your friends are people who cannot be reasoned with.

Notwithstanding, your vote for Virgil Goode is effectively a vote for Obama.

Just saying, from mind and heart. FWIW.

Thanks so much for the ping.

224 posted on 05/11/2012 2:35:14 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

King Obama may learn a great lesson through impeachment.


225 posted on 05/11/2012 2:40:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: TheOldLady

Blue fusion zot! Nice touch! :)


226 posted on 05/11/2012 3:17:42 PM PDT by LUV W (This space reserved for heroes)
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To: betty boop; KC Burke; First_Salute; xzins; markomalley; Alamo-Girl; wagglebee; little jeremiah; ...
For openers, I think it useful for you to consider that there is no such thing as a second-term "lame-duck" presidency where Obama is concerned. If anything, if Obama is reelected to a second term in office, he would be even more active in deconstructing the American order than he was in his first term.

Congress has it in their power to shut him down. They can draw up articles of impeachment or they can vote down everything he does.

This is a guy whose model of governance is the King and his Court. (I.e., Executive Orders and hand-picked "Left Progressive" staffing of the executive departments of government that write the regulations by which we all must abide, without having to consult with Congress first.)

Congress has stood idly by while Obama has stripped them of the power that rightfully belongs to Congress. Congress has the power to stop him in his tracks.

And let the Constitution be damned if it gets in his way.

Betty we are already there and nobody seems too concerned. Congress can put an end to his unconstitutional actions any time they feel like it. They just don't have the courage or the conviction.

And he has legions of enablers and crony codependents, inside and outside of government, to help him succeed in the implementation of this new model of American government.

He has 535 enablers. They are called congressmen and Senators. They don't seem too concerned about it and we keep electing these clowns.

Secondly, most definitely, Obama is a quintessential example of narcissist personality. I agree with you there. But in comparison, how on earth have you come to identify Romney as a narcissist?

He believes that someday he will be a God of a planet like Earth. He believes he will someday be equal to God in Glory. You cannot get more narcissistic than that.

I think you may be living in some kind of strange fantasy land, or second reality.

Betty I am a long time student of history. We will not see change of any kind until the people are ready to literally overturn the establishment. Both Romney and Obama represent the establishment. They are both slaves to the God of crony money politics. Obama is a crony socialist and Romney is a crony corporatist. Neither system of government was envisioned when the Constitution was established.

It appears that you and your friends are people who cannot be reasoned with.

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps it is you that is having trouble seeing reason?

Notwithstanding, your vote for Virgil Goode is effectively a vote for Obama.

No, a vote for Virgil Goode is a vote for what Virgil Goode stands for. Whether the American People are ready to have the kind of government that Virgil Goode represents is the choice of the American People is a question that is up to them.

I have only one vote to cast in this election. I have been given the sacred honor of casting my lone vote for someone who shares the values that God has given to me and I don't have to answer to you or the American People or the Republican party when I stand before God and have to give an accounting of my life. God will certainly not hold it against me that I voted FOR a man of Christian principles and convictions and a man who shares my values and my vision for the nation.

You and your FRiends may hold it against me, but then you are not God and no matter what Romney or his Prophet says, you will never be God and neither will he.

227 posted on 05/11/2012 3:33:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: darrellmaurina

The one that just got banned had Two Whole Pages of comments since 2002.

Surefire troll sign. Sounded the same through the years, too.


228 posted on 05/11/2012 3:41:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: P-Marlowe

Up until now I was sort of toying with the idea of very possibly voting for Romney, if I could keep the bile down.

But no - no freaking way. Nope. Cannot.

This is what we need:

A REVOLUTION AT THE CONVENTION!


229 posted on 05/11/2012 3:48:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Jim Robinson
King Obama may learn a great lesson through impeachment.

Well I certainly hope so. That would really be great, not to mention his just desserts.

But WHO will step up to the line to impeach him???

Once upon a time, Free Republic stepped up to the line to impeach Clinton for malfeasance in office. How did that work out???

To even try to impeach Obama would brand the would-be impeacher as an unreconstructed RACIST of KKK stripe.

The first thing that would happen to such a person is that his "case" would immediately come to the attention of the Secret Service, the Department of Homeland Security, not to mention the tender mercies of the IRS....

For evidence, please see what has happened very recently to a private donor, a Mr. Vandersloot, who had the temerity to donate $1 million dollars to the Romney campaign, and in consequence was put on Obama's enemies list, and has had every detail of his private life exposed and demonized by the Obama people.... Through so-called "legitimate" mainstream news sources.

Under the Obama Administration, dissenters are always punished. Friends are always rewarded.

Case in point: The Keystone Pipeline. Obama doesn't like it. I wonder, does that have anything to do with the fact the Warren Buffet bought a railroad in recent times, that traverses the same route that the pipeline would follow, which is perfectly capable of transporting Canadian hydrocarbons to Texas refineries?

And so Buffet — probably the greatest defender of the federal estate tax of all time — gets enriched by a political decision out of the Obama White House???

Crony capitalism is NOT the American way.... It is not only unseemly, but it is indefensible on Constitutional grounds....

This so-called "president" — who is indubitably illegitimate from the get-go on Article II, Section 1 grounds, but who has plenty of Chicago-style thugs to carry water for him and do his dirty deeds for him (e.g., Eric Holder not to mention his kingpin strategist, David Axelrod) — has plenty of help in inexorably stacking the deck against We the People of the United States of America.

I think the entire idea of the Obama Administration is to get payback for Black chattel slavery.... He's in office to make "Whitey" pay for past transgressions....

If he has to kill the American economy (and way of life) to do that, well, as Lenin said, you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs....

I've said it before, and will say it again: The Obama Administration is a criminal conspiracy against the People of the United States of America. Chicago-style. Does anybody wonder why Obama has located his presidential re-election campaign in Chicago??? And not in Washington, DC???

I gather if no one has impeached him yet, he's not likely to be impeached anytime soon.

And so I think the only way to get rid of him is by means of the ballot box.

But I have a whole lot of friends around here that condemn the man — Romney — who must defeat him (or he cannot be defeated), a man who possibly can defeat him. But they will not sign on to this effort, because for whatever reason, they think Romney is a devil from Hell, and as such, no better than King Obama.

At that point, I just don't know what to say. One cannot reason with unreasonable people.

I'm very sorry for that. But it seems to be the case.

230 posted on 05/11/2012 4:14:44 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

If “King” Obama continues on his current constitution trampling course, I guarantee an impeachment in his immediate future. Or a drumming out of office like Nixon. The Liberty-loving American people will not long stand for a petty tyrant or wannabe KING!!


231 posted on 05/11/2012 4:24:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: madprof98

Here’s the page where I got most of my info:

http://www.bchfs.com/angelscove_adoption.html

They are licensed by the state and they adopt to only married couples who have been married at least 3 years. They do not adopt to homosexuals, Illinois does not have homo marriage............yet.

Within the past year or so, Illinois has legislatively decreed “domestic partnerships”, they are not recognized as marriages.

They do not accept tax payer money. They are supported by churches and individual donors.


232 posted on 05/11/2012 4:48:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: betty boop
It appears that you and your friends are people who cannot be reasoned with.

Is that the same as being cajoled into your way of thinking?

Tossing around the term 'Un-American' will get you no points for being 'reasonable' in my book.

It is a way to shut up the other side of the argument, and a True Scotsman would not do that.

233 posted on 05/11/2012 5:20:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: TheOldLady
So long, rscully

Dang!

Too late again!

Oh well; I'll post stuff anyway!


Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

234 posted on 05/11/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: savagesusie
Homosexuality needs to be put back on the list of mental illness. SIN!
235 posted on 05/11/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kevcol
Woe to them that call Good, Evil and Evil, Good.

Isaiah 5:20



236 posted on 05/11/2012 5:28:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: word_warrior_bob
I liked Love Connections, but Mitt turns my stomach, he might be even smarmier and more self serving than Bill Clinton, and that’s saying something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHaMqHh5NZ4

237 posted on 05/11/2012 5:31:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: P-Marlowe
He believes that someday he will be a God of a planet like Earth.

And here is the PROOF!

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


238 posted on 05/11/2012 5:37:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: little jeremiah

AMEN!


239 posted on 05/11/2012 5:38:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: betty boop
But they will not sign on to this effort, because for whatever reason, they think Romney is a devil from Hell, and as such, no better than King Obama.

WRONG!

We KNOW that MORMONism is straight from HELL, and MITT is a deceived man who 'says' he believes in all that MORMONism stands for.

240 posted on 05/11/2012 5:41:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Actually I didn’t really think I’d be able to vote for him but you never know... There has to be a different candidate. Has to be. This is the ultimate middle finger to all of us. If he and the GOP elite really think that Rs or Independents will vote for a scumbag who wants fags to adopt children, they are even more in utter moral darkness than I thought possible.


241 posted on 05/11/2012 5:54:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: LUV W

Thank you, darlin’!


242 posted on 05/11/2012 7:14:44 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Elsie; P-Marlowe; xzins; Alamo-Girl; KC Burke; First_Salute; markomalley; wagglebee; ...
Is that the same as being cajoled into your way of thinking?

No. I am not trying to cajole you into "my" way of thinking.

I do not do "cajoling."

If anything, I am trying to encourage you into any kind of rational analysis at all.

It seems I am not having any luck with that plan.

243 posted on 05/11/2012 8:19:56 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; Elsie; xzins; Alamo-Girl; KC Burke; First_Salute; markomalley; wagglebee; ...
If anything, I am trying to encourage you into any kind of rational analysis at all.

Betty, if you were to do a "rational analysis" of your vote you would realize that casting your ballot in Massachusetts for Romney is as useless as casting your pearls before swine.

Romney will not win Massachusetts and he will not win California. Your vote and my vote mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. You and I really have nothing to lose by casting our votes for someone who is a reflection of our values. Nevertheless we can say a lot by refusing to cow tow to the GOP-E and giving Romney our vote of confidence. He does not deserve your vote of confidence. He has done nothing to earn it. Ever.

244 posted on 05/11/2012 8:32:10 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Liberty-loving American people will not long stand for a petty tyrant or wannabe KING!!

I sure do hope that there are enough "liberty loving American people" left to make a difference in Obama's removal from office, in whatever fashion he is to be successfully removed.

And he MUST be removed, soonest, before he gets a chance to destroy even more of our American system of liberty under just and equal laws. I've gotten to the point that I do not much care by what means that may happen.

Impeachment would do fine. But three-and-a-half years into his criminal conspiracy against the United Sates of America and the People thereof, it looks to me that he's getting away with his destructive plan with impunity.

Why has there been no challenge against him thus far? A man who gives Congress short shrift, and who is trying to intimidate and browbeat the Supreme Court into compliance?

He spits on the Constitution with every breath he draws....

To me, his removal from office is URGENT. If this cannot be done at the ballot box on November 6th next, then I do not know how it will be done.

But to preserve the America we know and love, his departure is absolutely necessary. And as soon as possible. By peaceful means if at all possible.

And then I have fellow twits who are arguing about the virtues of Virgil Goode....

Hullo!!! Are we all living on the same planet???

245 posted on 05/11/2012 8:41:12 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Elsie

True-—but I was being secular (using science) since when religious terminology is brought into it, the leftist/marxists don’t even read it.

Geeesh-— I was doing some research on Asian societies-—China, Samurai and Japan practice pederasty up until Christian cultures had an impact on their nation. And even then after outlawing it in areas—they went back to the practice. They were mostly homosexual. Women were treated like dogs and ignored (as they were in all homosexual cultures. Women better wake up—the sickness of homosexuality is a fixation in the latency period—where they prefer boys-—they are too immature to relate to the opposite sex which takes getting rid of narcissism. Most of the boys were sodomized in boyhood and groomed into the worldview-—like what Jerry Brown is doing to California boys and girls. Child porn is legal in Japan-—figures. Sick minds and worldview.

I was listening to Michael Savage in the nineties and he was talking about how you could determine how sick societies were by looking at their porn. He said Japan was fixated on excrement. (very Satanic).

Such a sick culture the Atheists are trying to resurrect in Christian Western civilization. Europe is already down the tubes. I think there is a deep anger with men who prefer men and hate women-—and desire boys like Sandusky, like most homosexuals. Read their literature-—it is all about beautiful boys. VERY UGLY and EVIL and yes, the most abominable sin man can do-—uniting excrement with act of creation-—Satanic....like the Bohemian grove guys (Kissinger) admire. Evil..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_China


246 posted on 05/11/2012 8:43:02 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; xzins; wagglebee; Jim Robinson
And then I have fellow twits who are arguing about the virtues of Virgil Goode....

Twits?

Has it come to that Betty?

Is that what you think of us?

247 posted on 05/11/2012 8:58:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: P-Marlowe; betty boop

Romney believes in giving our children and grand children to “gay couples” for adoption. Then Romney also said, “I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name.”

Romney says there that he supports Civil Unions being IDENTICAL in name to Marriage.

You say “civil union” and he hears “marriage”.

This is the “married” Gay Couple that he sees adopting children


248 posted on 05/11/2012 9:01:38 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: P-Marlowe; betty boop

Twit???

You are beside yourself, Sister. Hit the sack; get some sleep.


249 posted on 05/11/2012 9:08:07 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: betty boop

We’re right here. Ain’t going nowhere and aren’t voting for another tyrant to replace the last one.


250 posted on 05/11/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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