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Reading this article I thought about periods of peaceful co-existance of Muslims and Christians from fifteenth to nineteenth what is now Central Europe. Dr Jasser may be correct that some forces radicalized Islam. I remember Dr Joseph Douglas in his book "Red Cocaine" mentions fact that Soviets influenced many Islamic teachers to radicalize their message. It was their strategy to weaken and destroy Israel. The whole interview with Dr Jasser is very interesting.
1 posted on 05/09/2012 2:20:37 AM PDT by se99tp
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Reading this article I thought about periods of peaceful co-existance of Muslims and Christians from fifteenth to nineteenth what is now Central Europe.

I'm curious as to know which place exactly it was that they coexisted peacefully in Central Europe (what countries they are today). Did they live in a same country, or it was more detente situation?

2 posted on 05/09/2012 2:36:16 AM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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As long as Mohammad is considered by Muslims the final and only truly authoritative prophet of God, fascist will always be just another definition for devout in Islam.

Being “moderate” Muslims is technically sinful backsliding that lasts only until a fundamentalist (fascist) minister arrives to set you straight—you see, reason is stalked by the mortal sin of dissenting from even the most ridiculous and anachronistic babblings of the prophet.

When the most evil among you is given the most power by the faith you all share—the impossibility of reform keeps everyone of you in a bubble of suspicion by the civilized world.

4 posted on 05/09/2012 2:51:30 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("The Leftist MSM will tell us Obama is winning right up to his landslide defeat.")
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Muslim: current Arabic regimes are fascist!


8 posted on 05/09/2012 4:01:55 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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I did not read the whole article but I disagree with what I have read. Islam is not just a religion it is also a government....how one studies islam and misses that is beyond me.

There is a reason there is no islamic democracy, that reason is islam itself (and no Turkey is not a real democracy when the army is called in to keep it one whenever islam starts taking power in the government.

The reason for the co-existence of muslims and Christians for times in history is because there are always times the Christians fought back and either lost, kicked them out or were so horrific to them in war (example...Vlad the Impaler) they retreated for a while.....it never lasts. It can never last because islam demands they defeat and subjugate all others and sticking your head in the sand on that subject does not change the teachings in islam.

I will never get the total blindness some people have to islam when all you have to do is read to understand islam's evil. There is no excuse for the religion between the killing it calls for, the slavery of women and children and the absolute misery history has shown the people of islamic countries have lived in and under through out history and today.

It is the last killing religion that the West has for some reason not wiped out....like it did all the rest.

9 posted on 05/09/2012 4:36:35 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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Everybody’s missing the point.
LITERACY amongst Muzzies is the problem, here.
As long as nobody Islamic can read, Muzzies can believe and act like normal folk (even Christians!), but when they ACTUALLY READ what’s in their book it all goes to hell.
Muzziedom is simply incompatable with anything. Minus another religion to hate—they’ll simply fight each other.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 5:09:16 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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That Muslims and Christians peacefully co-existed in Central Europe from the 15th to 19th centuries would have been quite a surprise to those who actually lived back then.

The Cossacks, Poles, Russians, Lithuanians, Tatars and Turks fought dozens of wars during this period. To be fair, these wars by no means always split up into Christian vs. Moslem groups. Often one of the Christian groups would ally with one of the Muslim groups against other Christians. In particular, the Catholic Poles vs. Orthodox Russians often had as bitter religious relations as the Christians and Muslims.

For much of this period, the Tatars raided every year or so far into Poland and Ukraine, even into Russia, in what was called “the harvest of the steppe.” These gigantic raids had the taking of slaves as the prime objective, though other plunder obviously wasn’t turned down.

http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2011/01/forgotten-history-harvest-of-steppe.html

Slaving was a way of life and the primary economic engine of the Tatar khanate. They were the land-based Barbary pirates of the Black Sea.


11 posted on 05/09/2012 5:35:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I think there are plenty of young Muslims who would rather build their own Dubai than be trained dogs in Baghdad or Damascus. The rise of Islamism is in no way inevitable and, ironically, it might be Chinese investment rather than American military force that deals it the harshest blow.


14 posted on 05/09/2012 7:12:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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Reading this article I thought about periods of peaceful co-existance of Muslims and Christians from fifteenth to nineteenth what is now Central Europe.

Could it be that during those centuries they were "peaceful" because they realized they would be exterminated if they caused too much trouble?

15 posted on 05/09/2012 7:13:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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Zuhdi Jasser is to Islam what Martin Luther was to Christianity.

I think we should all pray for his safety.

He is a big proponent of “separating mosque and state” and this has made him a LOT of enemies of the radical ROPers.


19 posted on 05/09/2012 8:47:55 AM PDT by GraceG
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Brigitte Gabriel of “ACT! for America” - who fights against Sharia and Political Islam in the USA - also partners with Dr. Zuhdi Jasser and his group of Muslims in the “American Islamic Forum for Democracy”.

Dr. Jasser is backed by Congressman Peter King (who is holding the hearings in the House of Representatives on the “Radicalization of Muslims in America”. And Newt Gingrich, who wants to put forth a Federal Law - outlawing the use of Sharia in the courts - backs Dr. Jasser.

You’ll also find Dr. Jasser backed on Geert Wilders page on Facebook ...
http://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA


20 posted on 05/09/2012 12:04:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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