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To: philman_36
IMO you've evaded with that reply. You've evaded once already and I've let you slide. Not again.

I wasn't trying to 'slide' on anything.I was under the impression you were asking about the differences.

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I don't want a comment on jus sanguinis. I'm asking only about jus soli.

Fair enough.

NEXT TIME however, you'd like to restrict the subject to a specific part of a specific topic, DO be kind enough to inform the other person instead of just copping an attitude about it, okay?

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You say...'jus soli' is only acquirable by laws. and yet I don't see that in action here.

What do you think the 'naturalization laws' are?

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Aren't I a jus soli Citizen of Texas, since I was born in Texas, and isn't that natural law, not man made law? (I've made it a question this time)

Under my impression of Original Intent, you are not a jus soli citizen of the State of Texas, and it is man made law because it is based on English common law and requires the process of denizenation.

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What "law" made me a jus soli Citizen of Texas"? You have the handle MamaTexan so show me in our Texas statutes which specific law that is.

I don't recall saying there CURRENTLY were any laws to make you a jus soli citizen of Texas, just that Constitutionally, that was the way it was supposed to work.

399 posted on 05/09/2012 6:37:20 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
You say...'jus soli' is only acquirable by laws. and yet I don't see that in action here.
What do you think the 'naturalization laws' are?
Well perhaps I should get you to first tell me what you think the naturalization laws are as I'm coming to the conclusion that we may be further apart on this issue than I thought.
In the mean time, to me naturalization laws change the nationality of someone from one nation to another. You know, someone comes from one nation/country to become a member of a different nation/country.
Even the oath shows this... I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen...
I didn't "come from" some other nation/country/State. I was born in Texas to parents who were also both born in Texas.

Someone born in Ireland is of Irish soil. Someone born in France is of French soil. Naturalization laws can't change that.
Jus soli, the "law (or right) of the soil", simply is and needs no law to be "put into effect".
Naturalization laws can't change where a person is born.
Naturalization laws allow someone to voluntarily change not only the place they live, but to whom it is that they pledge their allegiance.

Under my impression of Original Intent, you are not a jus soli citizen of the State of Texas, and it is man made law because it is based on English common law and requires the process of denizenation.
Oh, dear God! This isn't ENGLAND! This is AMERICA!
@DENIZEN, English law.
In the United States there is no such civil condition.

401 posted on 05/09/2012 7:39:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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