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To: MD Expat in PA; philman_36
It just occurred to me we may have been looking at this whole 'naturalization at birth' thing from the wrong angle. It isn't what the codes said at the time, or what they say now, or even whether or not the federal government has the authority to pass such legislation.

If you believe We the People are Sovereign, the question should be -
Can a minor child personally sign a legally binding contract?

If the answer is 'no', then it matters not whether the contract is offered, as no legal implied or expressed acceptance of it can ever occur.

Nor would the alien/foreign parents have the standing to sign such a contract on their child's behalf, as they are among the excluded classes of the intent of the 14th Amendment.

The above, of course, should not be confused with the legitimate legal concept of derivation, where a child becomes a naturalized citizen when the parent, with knowledge and consent, has completed the naturalization process to become a citizen himself.

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IMHO, the entire legalistic perversion by the federal government of the naturalization-at-birth concept is for no other reason that to control the quality and quantity of the populace.

352 posted on 05/09/2012 8:23:52 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan; HoneysuckleTN
Can a minor child personally sign a legally binding contract?

Well then maybe you'll be able to better put into words what I meant here...The law is "applicable upon" the children, it "applies to" the parents.
As HoneysuckleTN @intimated the other day I may not be expressing it correctly.

356 posted on 05/09/2012 8:39:13 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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