[allmendream]

Yes. Just because the law referred to them as natural born- how dare I consider them natural born! That was just a “courtesy “! How dare I interpret the law and the Constitution as written instead of how you want it to be written!!! LOL!!!!

[WhiskeyX]

To avoid confusion when naval orders there can be only one captain aboard a naval warship, so anyone other than the captain of the warship is by “courtesy” addressed as if they are one grade higher in rank than a Captain. A Navy officer with the rank of Captain (Grade O-6) is addressed as Commodore, a Marine Corps, Army, or Air Force Captain (Grade O-3) is addressed as Major (Grade O-4). In any event, the officers while being addressed with the higher rank do not have and do not exercise the prerogatives of the higher rank. They are only addressed with the fictional rank as a matter of courtesy for the purpose of preserving clear command authority aboard the naval warship.

Likewise, the usage of natural born citizen terminology for aliens naturalized after birth or naturalized at birth was a courtesy designed to avoid later discriminatory treatment, but the courtesy did nothing whatsoever to alter the reality that they were born as aliens and naturalized after birth or were born as aliens and naturalized at birth, whereas the child born in the domestic soil with citizen parents can have no other allegiance or citizenship claims made upon the child and can only by the law of nature be a natural born citizen in the absence of any statute making the child a natural born citizen.

You cannot with any honesty avoid the historical fact that a true natural born citizen can only be so when subject or citizen born and not when subject or citizen made by statute. This was the understanding of the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution as demonstrated by John Jay’s letter suggesting the draft of the Constitution be changed to include the natural born citizen clause to exclude foreigners and the children of foreigners from the Office of the President. The clearly stated intent of the change in the wording of this clause is not and cannot be accomplished by changing the meaning of natural born citizen to include naturalized citizens or the children of aliens naturalized at birth. Such a construction and interpretation defeats the whose intent of the clause is completely contrary to the express intent of the men who wrote the Constitution.