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End of the manual transmission?
Fox News ^ | May 02, 2012 | Thomas Bey

Posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by Sopater

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My heart... it's breaking. :-(
1 posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:26 PM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

I’d take a classic Chevy muscle car (i.e. 1971 Camaro) over anything off the production line these days anyway...


2 posted on 05/02/2012 1:52:11 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

Hold on, let me check something
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Yep, just as I thought, mine is still there.
:)


3 posted on 05/02/2012 1:53:48 PM PDT by MrNJ
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To: Sopater

I have NEVER owned an automatic.

This means WAHR!


4 posted on 05/02/2012 1:54:12 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Sopater
Life's too short for stick shifts.My car has an “automatic manual” (my term) which allows me to downshift on a steep downgrade,for example.And I don't even use that.
5 posted on 05/02/2012 1:54:46 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Sopater

I owned a 6-spd chev corvette for a number of years.


6 posted on 05/02/2012 1:54:51 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Sopater

You don’t really have full control of that internal combustion engine, unless you’re working a stick.


7 posted on 05/02/2012 1:56:09 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: newfreep

WAHR! It’s fantastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVESMxs4rbA


8 posted on 05/02/2012 1:57:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Sopater
Car and Driver's Save The Manuals! website.
9 posted on 05/02/2012 1:57:14 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Sopater

I’ll stick with my 1991 Mazda Miata, with its honest-to-goodness H-pattern five-speed gearbox, three-pedal layout and total lack of driver aids (not even ABS). Unless someone wants to give me a new Boss 302...


10 posted on 05/02/2012 1:58:07 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (We apologise for the fault in this tagline. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: Sopater
2 reasons.
  1. Planned obsolescence. Transmission are "maintenance free" now,meaning you can't easily change the fluid or even check the level-no dip sticks anymore! What this does is cause an owner to make a tough decision at around 150K miles as whether it is worth rebuilding the tranny. The rest of the car COULD go another 150K but who knows? A planned consumer dilemma and screw job. A manual transmission could theoretically last for ever, maybe even longer than the engine which today with modern syn oils are almost bullet proof.
  2. The need for hands free driving....

11 posted on 05/02/2012 1:58:26 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sopater

Me too. It will be a sad day when I buy an automatic. Another sign that our civilizaton is on the brink of collapse.


12 posted on 05/02/2012 1:58:41 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Sopater

The last car I owned with an automatic transmission was a 1971 Pontiac Firebird. I traded it in 1979. I haven’t owned a vehicle with an automatic transmission since.


13 posted on 05/02/2012 1:58:41 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Sopater

I drive a 2004 BMW 325i with a manual. I got a great deal on this car, drove it off the lot, seems no one was interested in a manual BMW but me. I’ve been driving manual transmission cars for 30 years. Can’t imagine a world w/o 5 speed manuals.


14 posted on 05/02/2012 1:59:33 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Sopater

Since manuals are more fuel efficient you would think there would be more.


15 posted on 05/02/2012 2:00:06 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Sopater

Fugeddaboudit......I’ve seen this same story written over and over about every ten years or so...........


16 posted on 05/02/2012 2:00:19 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Sopater
The manual transmission made a significant comeback during the 1980s and '90s - so much so that now, classic vehicles from the '60s and earlier are being fitted with overdrive manual transmissions from that period.

I'm glad that the manufacturers are finally building worthwhile automatics, but I really don't see the charm in those flappy paddle gearboxes. I guess if I'm going to initiate a gear change, I'd rather not feel the computer getting in the middle of it.

17 posted on 05/02/2012 2:00:26 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Sopater

I would not own my 03 Mach 1 if it did not have a stick.
I would not own my 65 Falcon Sprint w/302 etc. if it did not have the 4 speed.
I would not be building a 66 Mustang notchback w/281 32 valve if it did not have a 5 speed.
But that’s just me, old & out of touch.


18 posted on 05/02/2012 2:01:20 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Sopater

Sounds like those black box thingys don’t work too well with a manual...probably RPM issues between shifts and all that....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874826/posts


19 posted on 05/02/2012 2:01:54 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Sopater

Even my 1979 RX-7 was sweet with the gears. 4bbl with an Otto engine. I gave it to my good friends in the desert 15 years ago.


20 posted on 05/02/2012 2:03:04 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Sopater

Most cars arn’t even available with a stick as an option anymore. You can’t get a stick on a full sized half ton pickup anymore. If you want a stick you have to buy a 3/4 ton or higher. I’ve owned 10 vehicles so far in my life and only 4 of them had sticks. I prefer stick but they are getting harder to find.


21 posted on 05/02/2012 2:03:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Huskrrrr
"Can’t imagine a world w/o 5 speed manuals."

6 spd m/t's are just fine.

I've tried DSG xmissions but found them lacking (especially for coasting).

22 posted on 05/02/2012 2:03:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MrNJ

Mine is also! Soon a manual will an extra cost option.


23 posted on 05/02/2012 2:04:52 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Sopater

When I was young, I loved shifting for myself. My first car, a 55 Ford with a 272 had a 3 speed manual with overdrive. That actually meant 6 different gear ratios tho all were not really useful.

Automatics have been so good for so long that I no longer worry about it. I can recall even in the 60s that it was said Chrysler’s torqufliite would do as well or better than a manual in a drag.


24 posted on 05/02/2012 2:05:07 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: central_va

You left out remote starting. You can’t do remote starting on a stick when the safety code requirement is that the clutch is depressed to allow the starter to energize.


25 posted on 05/02/2012 2:06:41 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sopater
I’d take a classic Chevy muscle car (i.e. 1971 Camaro) over anything off the production line these days anyway...

I'll amen that. I once had a 1970 Chevy Malibu that had been, shall we say "worked on," by the previous owner. That car would move, not like the anemic stuff one encounters today.

And it was downright good-looking, too.

26 posted on 05/02/2012 2:06:55 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: newfreep
I have NEVER owned an automatic.

Me either, unless one counts the cars I legally owned for my son who refused to learn to drive a manual transmission car.

Many years ago I thought I might get an automatic to make things easier for my wife, but she test drove one and hated it. Even my daughter took her test in a manual and as little as she drove until she flew the nest, she drove a manual.

I'm on my third Camry five-speed, and sometimes miss my little MGB.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 05/02/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Sopater
Go to any given dealership with 100 new cars.

On average, just four of the 2012 models will have manual gearboxes.

"ANY" dealership? It really depends on the dealership, doesn't it? I can't imagine it's going to be awfully hard to find a stick shift at a Porsche dealer. (They're up to 7 speed manuals on the new 911!)

Both of my cars are manuals, and I will give up my stick shift when they pry it from my cold, dead hand.

28 posted on 05/02/2012 2:11:32 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: certrtwngnut
Ever seen a "FOUR on the Tree"?
29 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:02 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: yarddog

Chrysler’s torqeflight sucked. REal bad. But it would handle any amount of horsepower you could throw at it.

Drag racing evolved into bracket racing. In order to win bracket racing, you have to get as close to your expected time as possible without beating it. This means you need a car with a very predictable performance and will give you the same time every time you run it.

You can’t do that with a stick.


30 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Sopater
Yeah, but a stick on the floor was a bitch when out with a girl and trying to cop a f**l and shift the tranny at the same time.

Has a 62 SAAB. 3 speed on column. Could keep the right arm around her, reach over the steering wheel with the left to shift, and tickle her left ****** with my right hand all at the same time.

Ah, the good old days.

31 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:12 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Sopater

I remember how I learned to drive a stick. I was standing in a muddy footing trench when the jobsite foreman came up and said “We need someone to be the jobsite gopher, make deliveries, pick up materials...do you know how to drive a stick shift?”

The first and only word out of my mouth was “yes.” Now, technically it wasn’t a lie, since I did know conceptually how to drive a stick, I’d just never actually done it. But I figured if I could get that F 150 off the construction lot and over behind the Hardee’s where I could practice a bit without the foreman seeing me, and then get to and from Kokomo Lumber in one piece, I had it made.

I made there and back, got a radio strapped to my side, and never went back to the muddy footer trench. The black guys on the concrete crew called me “easy money” as I drove around Kokomo listening to Milo Hamilton and Lou Boudreaux broadcast Cub games on the radio. Ah...the summer of 1980...


32 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:46 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: Sopater

Haven’t owned an automatic trans vehicle since the 80’s and toggled between manuals prior to. My Ford pickup now will never have to worry about replacing a tranny. The transaxle is virtually worry free. Only pain with stick shifting is in stop and go snarled traffic.


33 posted on 05/02/2012 2:13:05 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Since manuals are more fuel efficient you would think there would be more.

On many new cars, even the smaller 4-bangers, this is no longer the case. Review the mileage estimates, often the automatics get better mileage. The current Ford Fiesta shows the automatic and manual to be identical in the city (29 MPG), but the automatic gets 1 or 2 MPG better on the highway 39 (or 40 for the SFE package) for the automatic vs 38 for the manual.

34 posted on 05/02/2012 2:14:12 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Sopater

oh no kidding!
I guess I am going to keep my 2003 mustang till i die.
I LOVE driving my car!!


35 posted on 05/02/2012 2:16:07 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: Paladin2

“6 spd m/t’s are just fine.”

Yes, I’d love to test drive one someday.


36 posted on 05/02/2012 2:16:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: MindBender26

Damn near killed me more than once. WATCH OUT! THE ROAD IS DONE! :^)


37 posted on 05/02/2012 2:17:47 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: mo
Sounds like those black box thingys don’t work too well with a manual

Hmmmm...
38 posted on 05/02/2012 2:19:00 PM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

I once drove my Brother’s Mazda diesel pickup all the way from North Georgia to the Florida panhandle with no clutch. The only real trouble was I once was forced to stop at a stop sign. I usually could shift into low and just creep up to them and then when it was clear, go ahead and accelerate.

All you had to do of course was synchronize the speed of the engine with the wheels by revving the engine a little then get to feel when the speeds matched. I did plan the trip without having to go through Atlanta or Columbus, GA.

He didn’t have the money to fix it so Daddy had me drive his pickup to my Brother’s place then I drove the Mazda home. My Brother never would have made it.


39 posted on 05/02/2012 2:20:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: newfreep

“I have NEVER owned an automatic.”

me neither. told my frau when she got her license to learn to drive a stick and she did. i currently drive a 2008 forester w/5-speed.


40 posted on 05/02/2012 2:20:58 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
"but the automatic gets 1 or 2 MPG better on the highway 39 (or 40 for the SFE package) for the automatic vs 38 for the manual. "

Depends on the gearing for each vehicle. I've always found I get better than EPA mileage on a manual and worse on an auto. YMMV.

41 posted on 05/02/2012 2:22:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Charles Martel

We had a couple of 60s Mercedes diesels that were both equipped with a four on the tree.


42 posted on 05/02/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: ml/nj

I worked in HS and saved enough to buy a new, 1967 Mustang in my senior year - $2500. When I picked-up the car, the salesman gave me a 5-minute lesson on how to drive the 3-speed stick...and I never looked back.

Of all the cars i have owned, my favorite was a MGB - kinda of an orange color with a dark navy blue vinyl/leather interior. It was like a slightly oversized go-cart. I bought it new in early 70’s and, mechanically, it was totally junk but it was a blast to drive. Sold it less than 2 years later to a guy who never drove a stick.

Glad to see another MGB owner here!


43 posted on 05/02/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep

Never owned an auto either, likely never will. Just got to keep my little WRX wagon running until I croak....


44 posted on 05/02/2012 2:24:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Sopater

They need to eliminate transmissions, clutches, axles, and drive shafts all together and use hydrostatic drive systems that are manual or automatic.


45 posted on 05/02/2012 2:27:21 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Sopater

since 1981 my cars have always been manual. I’ve been planning for a Nissan 370z manual 6 speed (or equiv) in a few years, they sure better still be making manuals or I won’t be buying it.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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meh.. my wife drives a five-speed and it’s a pain in the butt in traffic. I owned a few and I don’t miss it but she’s under the illusion that EVERYONE knows how to drive one.

I like it but I’d rather have the automatic, especially in dense traffic.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:04 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

We used to have a Mazda Spyder with a supercharger, rear end engine, H pattern 5 speed. Loved driving that car and it was great in the snow and ice because you could really gear down. Would buy another one in a minute if they still made them. Always drove barefooted though, real high heels and all those pedals didn’t get along well.


48 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Guess it depends on the make and model. A VW Jetta S the manual does better on the highway, the auto in the city. For a Jetta TDI manual wins both.


49 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:59 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Sopater

If you’re not driving a stick, you’re not really driving. I’ve had - let’s see here - seven cars, and six were stick-shifts. I actually held out on my Saturn dealership to have them find the model / color combo I wanted in manual; I wasn’t settling for an automatic when a stick was available somewhere.


50 posted on 05/02/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it.)
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