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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; McLynnan; ladyvet
We even had some folks very early on who were trying to say Sarah Palin wasnt a real consetvative.... WTF ?

Yup, I've seen those posts. Quite frankly, I no longer understand what's up or down, right or wrong on this site anymore.

1,250 posted on 04/27/2012 9:25:23 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, and THANK YOU, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: nutmeg
Quite frankly, I no longer understand what's up or down, right or wrong on this site anymore.

Which is exactly what the enemy of our souls and what the Marxist liberals have done all they could to implement far and wide and certainly on sites like FR.

1,303 posted on 04/27/2012 9:56:12 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: nutmeg; Jim Robinson
Yup, I've seen those posts. Quite frankly, I no longer understand what's up or down, right or wrong on this site anymore.

Flooding the zone by the trolls.

The Wisdom of Crowds works best when the group involved is what FR used to be: passionate, with a majority or strong plurality with certain views in common, but willing to listen and debate honestly.

When too many trolls come on board -- and they need not be disruptive in the sense of strife, but just in the sense of refusing to listen or change their minds, continuing the refuted talking points -- then one of two things can happen, both bad.

First, the site loses cohesiveness and focus, and internecine warfare breaks out. Or second, there is a mass purge and the free-wheeling debate which led to everything being winnowed down to truth in very short order, goes by the wayside.

It used to be the "older" FReepers would act as unofficial shepherds to keep things in line: but with the succession of erstwhile conservative Presidential claimants (the more so as the Heiress Apparent held off due to a withering barrage from the Dems, and no support from the GOP, and trolls here stirring up dissension), where each claimaint had their own choir, and a failure to coalesce around ONE candidate -- the unity of the site broke up, to reflect the splintering of the party as a whole.

The REASON for this, is that the GOP has discovered the Dem technique of forking: pressing forward, being prepared to exploit whatever happens as though THAT had been your intent all along.

So, if Romney gets the nomination and wins against a weak Jimmuh Dhimmi Carter II, that "proves" that the big tent strategy worked; but if he loses, that "proves" that the purity fascisct social conservatives just gunked up the works.

Romney is the ultimate trojan horse of the GOP-e to try to separate the social conservatives from the fiscal conservatives. And if his flying monkeyshadn't stabbed Palin repeatedly beginning with the 2008 CAMPAIGN, and the rest of the GOP hadn't been having too much fun spending like drunken sailors (allowing Obaama to run to the right of them), and if Dubya had defended himself and provided for a viable successor candidate for the Presidency, we wouldn't be in these straits.

The GOP-e is trying the same technique here on FR.

That being said: I respect those who say "they cannot in good conscience vote for Romney". But I cannot in good conscience, allow Obaama a free return trip to the Oval Office. He bids fair to destroy the last bastion of freedom on Earth, the US: and on multiple fronts--the judiciary, converting our currency like unto that of Zimbabwe, destroying our economy through nationalizing energy, destroying our health care industry, and controlling the food supply as well as laws allowing the imprisonment and execution of US citizens without trial or counsel; not to mention unilateral nuclear disarmament.

All at the same time.

The problem is simply that we are in a moral dilemma NOW, due to concerted efforts by the enemies of morality and freedom over the past, say, fifty or sixty years. The sin is much more in those who were not sufficiently vigilant, rather than those of us left with no good choices in this last-ditch effort.

Pray. Work hard. Subvert the GOP from within -- see the Precinct Committeman Project.

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

1,645 posted on 04/28/2012 11:50:17 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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