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To: montanajoe

The dishonorable thing is to lie.

So far nobody has ever told me any way that the officer’s oath makes one iota of difference. It’s just a lie, and everybody in the military knows it.

I don’t like that. I don’t like my nephews having to LIE in order to be in what is supposedly an honorable position.

If they’re going to tell our guys to STFU when an enemy is threatening the Constitution, then they shouldn’t make them take the stinkin’ oath. Because that’s what it is, if it can never actually be carried out. It’s just a way to make it seem like it’s an honorable position, when all it can ever be is “yes-man”.

The people in the military who should have checked Obama out and found that his records are not in order and he is not qualified to be CINC (and brought that fact to Congress so they could impeach and/or the courts so they could declare Joe Biden the acting CINC) AS FULFILLMENT OF THEIR OATHS.... are the people that Lt Col Terry Lakin appealed to for answers in the proper manner, but they are too afraid of losing their lifetime rank if they make waves. They were yes-men who betrayed everybody below them in the chain of command who counted on them to have a way to keep their oaths.

THEY are the people who have brought dishonor on the US military and on themselves.

If anybody was as concerned about the honor of the men who have positions of high responsibility as they are about the honor of the peons, maybe this country would be in a heckuva better situation right now.

Maybe this guy should have kept his mouth shut. It’s not like it’s a free country or anything, or like the guidelines that were put out regarding political speech for military personnel actually mean anything, or the oaths that have been taken mean anything.

I guess I’m a little more ready to forgive somebody who mistakenly believes that this is America than I am for the people ensuring that it’s not.

This issue is too close to home for me. I’m going to leave the discussion before I say something I regret. Good-bye.


60 posted on 04/25/2012 4:11:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
The people in the military who should have checked Obama out and found that his records are not in order and he is not qualified to be CINC (and brought that fact to Congress so they could impeach and/or the courts so they could declare Joe Biden the acting CINC) AS FULFILLMENT OF THEIR OATHS

people in the military who should have checked Obama out

And whom may that be? The Constitution puts the military under civilian leadership. A revolt outside of that system is a revolt against the Constitution as well. Put the blame where it belongs, on the political side of our system, on the loser Rats and the spineless leadership of the GOP. Count the Governors and the Secretaries of State who failed in their duties to ensure candidates are qualified. Elections have consequences.

So far nobody has ever told me any way that the officer’s oath makes one iota of difference.

Since you haven't taken that oath, you wouldn't understand. This situation was foreseen by the Founders, as citizens we have let the corrupt and inept rule over us. As one who has taken that oath it isn't a lie, yet part of the Constitution is the political system. When it fails then there is the cartridge box. To continue to rail against the vast majority of honorable men past and present who serve does a monstrous disservice to them and to yourself. The sytem has worked for over 200 years, God willing it will continue. This isn't the first bunch of dickheads in office, nor unfortunately will it be the last. Just the most familiar in the here and now. What you have espoused would be no different then what you despise.

62 posted on 04/25/2012 5:29:39 PM PDT by xone
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