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Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores
The Daily Caller ^ | April 25, 2012 | Patrick Richardson

Posted on 04/25/2012 6:07:51 AM PDT by yoe

A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

“Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.”

The new regulations,(first proposed) August 31 by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.

Rossie Blinson, a 21-year-old college student from Buis Creek, N.C., told The Daily Caller that the federal government’s plan will do far more harm than good.

“The main concern I have is that it would prevent kids from doing 4-H and FFA projects if they’re not at their parents’ house,” said Blinson.


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KEYWORDS: clairemcaskill; deptoflabor; labor; nlrb; obamanation; parents; unionjobs
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Who are these people who do not understand America....Solis sees America through immigrant worker eyes much like the Obamas see America through South Side Chicago eyes...........Ms. Solis proposal here is utterly wrong headed.
1 posted on 04/25/2012 6:07:54 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

This is an illegal immigrant jobs bill. The farm work must be done by someone.

Already, in this area, there are no “teen” jobs, they are all taken by illegals.

This bill extends that into food production.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 6:09:49 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: yoe

???

who’s gonna de-tassle corn?


3 posted on 04/25/2012 6:12:05 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: yoe

Yet the same federal government and Congress will lament the demise of the family farm and think up new subsidies to protect farming from corporate interests.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 6:12:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: yoe
This is the craziest thing I have ever heard. I live in south~central Kentucky, where family farms abound. From the time kids are old enough to walk they're helping out on the farms.
Our traditional, American way of life is almost GONE.
5 posted on 04/25/2012 6:12:33 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: yoe

Is this something that can be voted down?


6 posted on 04/25/2012 6:17:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: yoe
Can't allow Americans to exist that can subsist without the nanny government and big ag providing -- or if the peasants get uppity, shutting off -- what the family needs to survive.

I know folks want to reduce this to a matter of the marxist in chief's chitown politics, but it is bigger than that. It is another brick in the police state wall that has been put up around us with nary a peep.

7 posted on 04/25/2012 6:18:26 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: yoe

Molon labe on this one. What will they do, come onto the family farms and arrest kids? Let ‘em come!


8 posted on 04/25/2012 6:19:23 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: mamelukesabre

Don’t be silly. The Department of Labor will simply declare that corn doesn’t need to be de-tassled.


9 posted on 04/25/2012 6:19:50 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: yoe
Family farms should use the Left's oft-lauded tactic of "civil disobedience."

Ignore this rule and let the Dept of Labor attempt to enforce it.

10 posted on 04/25/2012 6:19:50 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: yoe
Sounds like the kids will need something to do to keep them out of trouble.

How about a state sponsered Youth Program, to teach them Morals and Fortitude (you know because their parents can't), Boys could be in the Deutsches Jungvolk, while the girls' could be Bund Deutscher Mädel.

Sound Good to Me!

11 posted on 04/25/2012 6:19:59 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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Show of hands...how many people think these rules are going to be ignored, and that at some point a County Sheriff is going to become involved; depending on their politics either with or against the farm owner?

I am of the firm belief that County Sheriff’s are one of the last lines of defense against the rampant Federalism that is overtaking our country. Men like Joe Arapio, and countless others, are the ones who will be/are on the front line acting as a defender/trip wire in the coming battle.


12 posted on 04/25/2012 6:20:58 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: bboop

> What will they do, come onto the family farms and arrest
> kids? Let ‘em come!

No, they will arrest the parents and fine them into penury so they have to work menial jobs in the city.

If you resist, they will kill you.


13 posted on 04/25/2012 6:21:16 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: yoe

Just another step in their plan to cut people off from producing their own food.

If they control the food supply (that is, the ‘means of production’ for food), then very few people can control many.

Get hybrid seeds.
Learn how to start them.
Learn how to plant them.
Learn how to grow them.
Learn how to harvest the seeds to plant the following season.

Aquaponics, baby.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 6:23:34 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Ron Paul is the Lyndon Larouche of the 21st century.))
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To: yoe

Oh, goody, now rural folks can raise lazy, good for nothing, video game playing little miscreants just like city folk do!
And there will be less competition for the illegal aliens.


15 posted on 04/25/2012 6:23:57 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: yoe
Its time for the people to strike back at big snouted pig bureaucrats and their congress critter enablers. In the old days the peasants used pruning hooks and brick bats to communicate with stupid government pigs

I think the abunch of government morons are eager for a civil war.

I started operating my father farm tractor when I was 12 years old

16 posted on 04/25/2012 6:24:26 AM PDT by texican01
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To: Westbrook

So some Policy Wonk in size five black wings tips is going to show the 4-H club how it’s done?!


17 posted on 04/25/2012 6:25:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bearsgirl90

I wonder what Willie Nelson, John Cougar Mellencamp and all of their Farm Aid cohorts have to say about this?

On second thought, I think I know...


18 posted on 04/25/2012 6:27:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massgopguy

> So some Policy Wonk in size five black wings tips is going
> to show the 4-H club how it’s done?!

Look for the metrosexual queens to try to modify the focus and compass of 4-H in the coming years.

Remember, these fairies have jack-booted thugs from Treasury Dept. to do their bidding.

We have a small farm where our kids work, too. We will not comply. Neither will our neighbors. None of us will rat out any of the others.

If the fairies come with their thugs, it’s a signal to me that America is fallen, and we need to seek another home.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 6:29:07 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: massgopguy

I actually find this a bit frightening because in prior years, even the most liberal Democrat administration was still afraid to take on the farmers.

This one seems to have no fear whatsoever.


20 posted on 04/25/2012 6:29:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DBrow

Yes, either that, or they just want to put the rest of the family farmers out of business permanently, and damage our economy in the process. Whatever their goal is, these negative consequences are not unintentional, the commie bastards know exactly what they are doing.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 6:29:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: yoe

Yeah, that’ll help bring food prices down....


22 posted on 04/25/2012 6:30:44 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: yoe
Solis sees America through the eyes of a Communist apparatchik still enamored of Chicom communes and Nazi forced labor camps.

America has no room for her kind. Ship her out. Purge her.

23 posted on 04/25/2012 6:33:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yoe

What about having kids running around as community organizers.


24 posted on 04/25/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Boogieman

We saw this in “1984” - family relationships were banned. Your loyalty is to only be to the state. A very Satanic state of affairs, that.

Family farms are the epitome of what the left hates - strong families, strong character, work ethic, and independence.


25 posted on 04/25/2012 6:34:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Turbo Pig
The federales cannot enforce these rules without the assistance of State authorities.

This is the very same federal government that is telling the Supreme Court today that States cannot assist the federal government in the enforcement of illegal alien laws.

26 posted on 04/25/2012 6:35:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I”D suggest its time to crank up the dozers and start prepping the slit trenches. They’re coming for you if you live on a farm.


27 posted on 04/25/2012 6:37:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yoe
We are no longer free people. We are a managed people. Mere subjects of the Liberal government overlords.
28 posted on 04/25/2012 6:38:56 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: nuconvert

Yes, it can be voted down. We have to vote Obama out of office (even if that means voting Romney into office). We have to vote to turn control of the Senate over to someone better than Harry Reid (yes, even Mitch McConnell would be much better). We need to vote to keep Republicans in charge of the House (yes, even if Boehner is Speaker). Many conservatives seem to forget that there are worse things in life than RINOs.


29 posted on 04/25/2012 6:41:36 AM PDT by BruceS (If you refuse to support the lesser of two evils, then you are supporting the greater of two evils.)
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And we also could be looking at filling a spot on the Supreme Court


30 posted on 04/25/2012 6:44:36 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Westbrook

“Look for the metrosexual queens to try to modify the focus and compass of 4-H in the coming years.”

It’s already happening, lots of USDA cash that was for 4H is going for “harm reduction” and “youth at risk” programs.

http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.org/fileaccess.cfm?article=70170&p=OJCQEN&filetip=pdf

http://ucanr.org/repository/cao/landingpage.cfm?article=ca.v050n02p4&fulltext=yes


31 posted on 04/25/2012 6:45:18 AM PDT by DBrow
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32 posted on 04/25/2012 6:51:39 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: DTogo
Then they will charge you with child endangerment and take your kids. You'll spend thousands to try to get your kids back. By the time you get them back they will be completely brainwashed..
33 posted on 04/25/2012 6:55:53 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

You need non-hybrid seeds.


34 posted on 04/25/2012 6:58:05 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I wonder what Willie Nelson, John Cougar Mellencamp and all of their Farm Aid cohorts have to say about this? On second thought, I think I know...

Really. Forbid it for them to even remotely be critical of this regime. Can you imagine for a moment if the Bush Administration even considered a move like this??
35 posted on 04/25/2012 7:03:04 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I envision a farmers march on D.C. complete with tractors, rakes, hoes and other farm equipment.

As President Jefferson Davis so prophetically said just prior to the War Between the States: “We just want to be left alone.”


36 posted on 04/25/2012 7:05:29 AM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: varina davis

Furthermore, I can’t even imagine the good Amish farmers paying any attention to this edict.


37 posted on 04/25/2012 7:06:57 AM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: muawiyah
The federales cannot enforce these rules without the assistance of State authorities.

I am waiting for the day when a brave County Sheriff comes out and says, "The federal government has overstepped its bounds and is acting in an un-Constitutional manner. Agents from Such-And-Such federal agency will be arrested and escorted out of my county if they attempt to enforce Such-And-Such law."

38 posted on 04/25/2012 7:08:06 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: yoe

My husband’s first job in high school was recording weights of trucks freshly loaded with hay cubes, for the family agricultural trucking business. That would not be permitted any more, I guess.


39 posted on 04/25/2012 7:10:54 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: BruceS

Be careful what you say, the anti-Romney bots will come out of the wood work and pillory you for speaking such heresy on FR. They are everywhere and they are the guardians of all that is conservative; even if it means letting obama and his czars remain in control.


40 posted on 04/25/2012 7:13:35 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Boogieman
Here's another negative consequence they haven't thought about.

In just a matter of a few years there will be a huge increase in the number of injuries and deaths on the job.

Nothing is more dangerous on the job than an 18 yo kid that has never worked a day in their life at anything with any kind of risk.

They have no concept of danger and will put themselves in a position where they can get hurt or killed, and have no thought about it.

They also get other people hurt or killed because they have no concept of the risk involved with the job.

41 posted on 04/25/2012 7:14:21 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: muawiyah
They’re coming for you if you live on a farm.

I don't, but I suspect they'll be coming for me anyway.
42 posted on 04/25/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Remember who really got Elian Gonzalez returned to Cuba. It was Archer Daniels Midland.


43 posted on 04/25/2012 7:31:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: yoe

This will run the Amish out of the country.

I started driving the tractor to plwo and cultivate at about ten. at 12 I was in the barn hanging tobacco and spearing it. at 14 I was hiring out to other farmers after we had harvested our own crop.

Do kids get hurt? Occasionally.
But they learn good work habits, They gain strength, and they don’t need to go to the gym most important they are with their dad.(God I wish I could be with him doing that again.)
They are much better off than joining a drug gamg in the city.

We had plenty of time to play after the work was done and we got hurt more often on the playing field than on the farm.


44 posted on 04/25/2012 7:34:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: yoe

This is The Onion, right?


45 posted on 04/25/2012 7:45:12 AM PDT by what's up
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To: BruceS

Well said.


46 posted on 04/25/2012 7:46:40 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Venturer

The family farm is the last place children are ALLOWED to learn non-union work habits,therefore it must be destroyed.

Neither big labor ,big agribusiness,nor big government want independent people.

The child labor laws are at least as much about preserving union jobs as they are about protecting children from exploitation.


47 posted on 04/25/2012 7:52:46 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Venturer

The family farm is the last place children are ALLOWED to learn non-union work habits,therefore it must be destroyed.

Neither big labor ,big agribusiness,nor big government want independent people.

The child labor laws are at least as much about preserving union jobs as they are about protecting children from exploitation.


48 posted on 04/25/2012 8:33:09 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: yoe

It is a further attack on agrarian religious organizations like the Anabaptists, Amish, Mennonites, etc... (bible clingers).


49 posted on 04/25/2012 8:41:39 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: yoe

These kids are stealing jobs that could be held by good hard working UNION employees. We need to organize the Family farm so that Obama’s UNION supportors can have good paying jobs and put the family farm out of business. Ya that is the OBUMMER way.


50 posted on 04/25/2012 8:44:35 AM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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