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Romney gaining conservatives' support, if not their hearts
Washington Post ^ | apr 19, 2012 | Rosalind S. Helderman and Sandhya Somashekhar

Posted on 04/22/2012 7:06:08 AM PDT by Innovative

Mitt Romney was not his first choice for president, but conservative political activist Scott Magill has come to accept that Romney is now his only choice. So Magill is looking for reasons to get jazzed about the candidate he once dismissed.

His list so far: Romney is a Republican who would sign into law legislation passed by a GOP-led House. Romney has started to hit the right talking points. If elected, Romney would have to listen to the conservative base - or risk its wrath at reelection time.

Also, and perhaps most important, Romney is not Barack Obama.

The conservative base appears to be warming to Romney, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll conducted after Santorum's exit, which found that about 80 percent of conservative Republicans hold favorable views of Romney - a record percentage for the candidate.

Santorum's withdrawal from the field has opened the door for many groups that had been uncomfortable with his candidacy to embrace Romney, including the National Right to Life; the Susan B. Anthony List; National Organization for Marriage, which opposes same-sex marriage.

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To: libdestroyer

They already proved they will bend at the drop of a dime.

I’m $upporting and voting for the conservative in 2012.


261 posted on 04/23/2012 8:09:28 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: libdestroyer; MARKUSPRIME
We fielded an incredibly pathetic RINO candidate in the entire party. And you want to do it again?

Those folding like cheap suitcases will plead the insanity defense, doing the same thing and expecting different results. They have an unteachable spirit.

262 posted on 04/23/2012 8:16:10 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Those who vote for Mitt Romney in the primary are (perhaps unintentionally) giving the election to Obama. The issue in this election that people are as close to unanimous about as anybody ever gets is the need to get rid of Obamacare (which is just the federal verson of Romneycare).

We are shooting ourselves in the foot if we choose Romney as our candidate - partly because it will give Obama the victory even though I and many, many others will be pushing against Obama even if Romney is the R candidate. But also partly because Romney doesn’t really grasp the whole concept of freedom. I’m going to C&P from what I posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2875441/posts :

I have to work today and tomorrow so I can’t man any of Newt’s phone banks, but if anybody can use this letter to forward in e-mails to your lists before tomorrow’s primaries, please do so:

Mitt Romney supports government-coerced abortion. He personally has made the decision to force people to provide abortions even though they believe it to be murder.

Yes, he vetoed Romneycare because it mandated abortion insurance coverage, but in Dec 2005 after his veto was overridden and the Boston Globe printed an article noting that Catholic hospitals would be exempt from providing abortions to rape victims, Romney ordered the Dept of Public Health to force Catholic hospitals to provide abortions. He said his legal counsel had given him a “sounder view” of what Romneycare meant – that this law alone, of all the abortion laws passed in the 30 years since the 1975 conscience law had exempted religious institutions from having to perform abortions against their religious beliefs, nullified the conscience law even though a nullification clause had specifically been rejected by the MA legislature. Romney went further and said he personally believed it was the “right thing” for Catholic hospitals to commit what they believe to be murder.

Since that time, the regulations now say that the abortifacient morning-after pill must be offered by Catholic hospitals regardless of whether rape is even claimed. In other words, any woman can go to the emergency room of any Catholic hospital in MA and force the staff there to give her an abortion pill, no questions allowed to be asked.

This isn’t about rape and it isn’t about abortion. There are plenty of secular hospitals that will provide the morning-after pill. This is about forcing every Catholic in this country who puts a dollar bill in the collection plate to commune at the altar of government-established religion that includes abortion. Religious liberty exists no more.

Welcome to China right here in America.

Romney defends Romneycare’s coerced abortions by pointing out that states are not bound by the US Constitution. First Amendment guarantees of religious liberty don’t apply to states. States are free to establish religion and violate religious liberty, as Romney has done in MA.

The chief way that Islamists plan to establish sharia in free countries is by establishing precedents at the more local levels and then using that precedent to force the whole country into sharia – Islam forced onto everyone. Romney’s claims would allow states to establish sharia.

Vote for Newt Gingrich in the Republican Presidential primary.


263 posted on 04/23/2012 8:49:43 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Already did in TN, but Im a realist if its Obama vs Romney Im voting for Romney. Obama has got to go.


264 posted on 04/23/2012 8:52:17 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Wpin

If you prefer Newt then why not support him in the primary until the primary is over?

After the primary is over we can fight Obama. Right now we have to fight to have an alternative to Obama that we and our allies can actually stomach voting for. Whoever runs against Obama is going to need better than what I could offer for Romney, which is “Well, Romney is slime who believes in coerced abortion but at least he’s not Obama.”

If we seriously want somebody we can put our hearts into supporting - which is what it’s going to take, with a hostage media, hostage electronic voting systems, hostage law enforcement, hostage Congress, and hostage courts - we have GOT to fight to get somebody besides Romney.

Until we have a candidate, we have a duty to fight for the BEST candidate and not let ourselves be demoralized by a machine whose sole intent is to demoralize us. That’s what Romney’s buy-off of the supposedly “pro-life” groups during the PRIMARY is all about. To make sure that Romney is the nominee. NOT to fight Obama.


265 posted on 04/23/2012 8:55:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: MARKUSPRIME

So would I, and I’ve said so here effusively.

But Romney hasn’t won yet. There is still another option at this point. You said you voted for Newt already. Thanks! Fantastic! Now cheer on those who still have that option, and push for the best candidate we can get.

So we WON’T have to vote for a piece of excrement in order to vote against Obama.

Your blood and the blood of your family should not be wasted by us getting a guy in the office of President who believes that sharia is perfectly fine as long as it is the STATES and not the feds who institute it. I’ll C&P again what I wrote in a different thread, so you can really think about what is at stake here. Romney won’t intentionally institute sharia like Obama will (which is why I would support Romney against Obama) but because he doesn’t recognize what America and her freedoms are up against he would unwittingly sell us down the river. Here’s what I posted:

I have to work today and tomorrow so I can’t man any of Newt’s phone banks, but if anybody can use this letter to forward in e-mails to your lists before tomorrow’s primaries, please do so:

Mitt Romney supports government-coerced abortion. He personally has made the decision to force people to provide abortions even though they believe it to be murder.

Yes, he vetoed Romneycare because it mandated abortion insurance coverage, but in Dec 2005 after his veto was overridden and the Boston Globe printed an article noting that Catholic hospitals would be exempt from providing abortions to rape victims, Romney ordered the Dept of Public Health to force Catholic hospitals to provide abortions. He said his legal counsel had given him a “sounder view” of what Romneycare meant – that this law alone, of all the abortion laws passed in the 30 years since the 1975 conscience law had exempted religious institutions from having to perform abortions against their religious beliefs, nullified the conscience law even though a nullification clause had specifically been rejected by the MA legislature. Romney went further and said he personally believed it was the “right thing” for Catholic hospitals to commit what they believe to be murder.

Since that time, the regulations now say that the abortifacient morning-after pill must be offered by Catholic hospitals regardless of whether rape is even claimed. In other words, any woman can go to the emergency room of any Catholic hospital in MA and force the staff there to give her an abortion pill, no questions allowed to be asked.

This isn’t about rape and it isn’t about abortion. There are plenty of secular hospitals that will provide the morning-after pill. This is about forcing every Catholic in this country who puts a dollar bill in the collection plate to commune at the altar of government-established religion that includes abortion. Religious liberty exists no more.

Welcome to China right here in America.

Romney defends Romneycare’s coerced abortions by pointing out that states are not bound by the US Constitution. First Amendment guarantees of religious liberty don’t apply to states. States are free to establish religion and violate religious liberty, as Romney has done in MA.

The chief way that Islamists plan to establish sharia in free countries is by establishing precedents at the more local levels and then using that precedent to force the whole country into sharia – Islam forced onto everyone. Romney’s claims would allow states to establish sharia.

Vote for Newt Gingrich in the Republican Presidential primary.


266 posted on 04/23/2012 9:02:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: LibFreeUSA

That’s a good stance. I’m with you on all of that.

What you can do now, though, in addition to your own vote, is work to try to unite those who have been sidetracked by personal politics and/or agents provocateur - so that we stand together for the more conservative candidate who is still in the race: Newt.

The biggest obstacle we face right now is people giving up. Demoralization. That’s a game that the communists have perfected, and the Romney machine knows all the same tricks. Buying off the supposedly “pro-life” groups during the PRIMARY is a sign of how Romney substitutes money and power for conscience and freedom. If his money can buy off the “pro-life” groups we give our money to, he has effectively bought us off too - UNLESS WE FIGHT BACK FOR THE TRUTH.

And that’s what we need to do. For our own consciences’ sake and for the sake of the country.


267 posted on 04/23/2012 9:07:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Wpin
there is a world of difference between Romney and Obama...really.

Doesn't hold up to serious scrutiny.

Shoot, at this point it doesn't even pass the laugh test.

268 posted on 04/23/2012 9:17:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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269 posted on 04/23/2012 9:55:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Wpin
"I am not a cartoon character dj..."

Sure you are. That's why we're laughing at you, troll.

270 posted on 04/23/2012 10:31:50 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: EternalVigilance

Forget it, they’re probably on Willard’s payroll. They have all the talking points down.


271 posted on 04/23/2012 10:33:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Go Goode !


272 posted on 04/23/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: MARKUSPRIME
"I would vote for ... a piece of excrement over the marxist muslim Obama."

That's exactly what a vote for Slick Willard is. I'm voting Conservative. Go Goode !

273 posted on 04/23/2012 10:37:47 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

If I were an “Obot” I’d have no problem with Mitt Romney.

Usually name-calling means I win.


274 posted on 04/23/2012 10:39:32 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: libdestroyer

Nah, you are just one of the many newly signed up Obama helmet washing trolls. You aren’t fooling anyone.


275 posted on 04/23/2012 10:41:17 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No dj, you are laughing because you are a fool. A cowardly fool at that. Mail me punk...let’s get together.


276 posted on 04/23/2012 10:53:43 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Sorry, I don’t hang with violent psychos. You have a good one.


277 posted on 04/23/2012 11:26:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Innovative

Let’s make this real simple, so even the most brain-dead Romney Zombie understands it:

Liberals want to f*ck this country.

Conservatives refuse to f*ck with liberals.

RINOs are on their knees hoping a bl*w job is enough.

Some Republicans through desperation or fear may have temporarily abdicated their core principles and see Romney as the least of all evils. Understandable. Everybody drops the soap sometimes.

But RINOs that actively defend and promote this lying liberal in conservative clothing are taking the soap and using it to write “DO ME” on the prison shower floor.

Thus endeth the lesson. Next week: “Why Politicians Who Swing Both Ways Tend to Get It in Both Ends”.


278 posted on 04/23/2012 11:42:41 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I am not normally a violent type person, but there is a point where the ridicule goes too far fieldmarshaldj...have a good day.


279 posted on 04/23/2012 11:46:35 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: presently no screen name
He [Romney] has NO demeaning qualities

I really hate to interrupt your non-stop personal attacks (e.g. calling FReepers dumb and stupid) but I'm having some doubt whether you actually know what the word demeaning means. The term simply doesn't work in context with the rest of your tirade. Any chance you and your infinite wisdom intended to describe "no redeeming qualities," Smarty Pants?

280 posted on 04/23/2012 11:57:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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