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Dr. Robert Spitzer Renounces Infamous 'Ex-Gay' Study Claiming Some Gays Could...retread troll zot
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/11/4406240/dr-robert-spitzer-renounces-infamous.html | 4/19/12

Posted on 04/19/2012 7:21:51 PM PDT by Only Sane Man

Edited on 04/19/2012 7:45:07 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Mariner
If you"re talking about behavior, I believe you. Under that standard there are countless former heterosexuals too...

Actually no -maybe you have bought into some of the propaganda? Heterosexual is an objective scientific term referring to how a species procreates e.g. two sexes.

REGARDLESS, with some exceptions (e.g. genetic defects) if one has sex or not; regardless, any orifice diversity they may choose to engage in, they are always a heterosexual (male or female).

HOMOSEXUAL as a feeling (orientation) is a self identified subjective term created in reference to an objective activity.

61 posted on 04/19/2012 8:49:38 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: WestwardHo

Never stop praying is excellent advice.


62 posted on 04/19/2012 9:00:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Only Sane Man

You can go back to Mitt’s campaign now. IBTZ


63 posted on 04/19/2012 9:01:11 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: Waryone
You can go back to Mitt’s campaign now. IBTZ

LOL!

64 posted on 04/19/2012 9:08:48 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Only Sane Man

Who needs a study? We have the experience and testimony of the ex-gays themselves.


65 posted on 04/19/2012 9:15:27 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: rlmorel
It was a weird posting history. Seemed like one of these:


66 posted on 04/19/2012 9:16:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Only Sane Man

Anne Heche has changed orientations at least twice that I know of.


67 posted on 04/19/2012 9:19:53 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DBeers

“The findings can be considered evidence for what those who have undergone ex-gay therapy say about it”

Mostly, what they say about it, as I understand it, is that it works for them.


68 posted on 04/19/2012 9:22:56 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: little jeremiah

Just as there are alcoholics who don’t drink, nothing requires homosexuals to engage in the gay lifestyle.


69 posted on 04/19/2012 9:27:28 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Never stop praying is excellent advice.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTvt7MC5Q0&feature=related


70 posted on 04/19/2012 9:32:01 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DarthVader; Only Sane Man; 50mm; darkwing104

Damn, folks. Slow down here. He doesn’t look trollish to me.


71 posted on 04/19/2012 9:32:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: TheOldLady; shibumi; Old Sarge

Possible ZOT!

Ping....


72 posted on 04/19/2012 9:37:33 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: little jeremiah

I see a ZOT! coming on......


73 posted on 04/19/2012 9:39:55 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: Only Sane Man
There is a difference between discrimination and accepting the behavior. Many people have strange fetishes, does that mean that schools should teach about those who are turned on by feet, or pain, or body odor?

One can also argue that pedophillia is genetic or a choice, yet we do not tollerate that. Some people even want to marry inanimate objects, some want to marry animals and anything else you can imagine.

To pretend sexual disorders are normal and not infact on par with disorders like bipolar, and major depression does a major diservice to society.

74 posted on 04/19/2012 9:40:00 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Only Sane Man; little jeremiah

Want truth, n00b ? Ok, fine. If you insist:

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” -—Leviticus 18:22

God says homosexuality is evil. I know this sounds all Crazytown, but I’ll go with His stance on the matter before I go with yours.

IBTZ!


75 posted on 04/19/2012 9:45:59 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: Only Sane Man
Dr Spitzer feared for his safety after proclaiming gays could change. In fact he feared for his safety so much he quit speaking about it. That's on the record, somewhere here on FR.

Science still doesn't support the born that way theory. So with science against Spitzer and his personal safety an issue, I wonder where the truth lies with this article.

76 posted on 04/19/2012 9:47:32 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: jwalsh07

“And two men can not have a baby no matter who pitches and catches.”

I am soooooo totally stealing this!

+1 !!


77 posted on 04/19/2012 9:48:47 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: Only Sane Man

two words

Anne Heche


78 posted on 04/19/2012 10:11:55 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Mariner

If you want to know more about how homosexuals can change, read the link I posted above, right after your comment to me.


79 posted on 04/19/2012 10:26:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Earthdweller; DBeers
Why do you communists love homosexual sex so much?

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

It's part of The Agenda.

80 posted on 04/19/2012 10:29:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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