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To: Verginius Rufus; Impy
>> I don't think being born in Puerto Rico disqualifies someone from becoming President or Vice President, but being from a place with no electoral votes is a definite obstacle...plus are people willing to vote for someone with a tilde in his name? I doubt it. <<

I'm not a birther and I don't think being born in Puerto Rico disqualifies you either (as someone else noted, Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona territory to U.S. citizen parents). However, people are forgetting the other part of the constitutional requirements for presidency, residency. It makes it very clear: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States .

Even if you assumed they meant "non-consecutive" residency within the U.S., if you add up Fortuno's years in Washington when he served in Congress and his years in law school, it STILL doesn't add up to 14 years. I can't imagine the founders meant that living on an island territory somewhere "counted" as "within the United States", or the entire clause would be pointless since people nowhere near the United States could claim to be "residents". I think they put that clause in specifically to prevent what Fortuno advocates want here... someone who was "American born" on paper but has no ties to the United States physically or culturally in many years suddenly becoming the leader of our country. The clause was inserted for good reason, to prevent such a bizarre thing from happening.

As someone else noted, it sounds like a bad Twilight Zone episode (Rod Serling intoning: "Meet Luis Fortuño, age 51. He's the leader of a small spanish-speaking Latin American island who is about to become President of the United States. Not possible in the real world, you say, but Sr. Fortuño is about to find that anything can happen... in The Twilight Zone.")

72 posted on 04/14/2012 6:29:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; justiceseeker93; cll; ...

I’m not concerned about eligibility. I think you can consider US territories as part of the country.

But that Auh2orepublican who knows Fortuño and Puerto Rican politics better than most of us is against it tells me all I need to know.

Puerto Rican voters are most important to us in Florida where they are swing voters (Jeb did well with them).

Most of the rest are in big cities (in states we aren’t likely to win) where they are democrat voters who will not go against Obama.

If you want to secure Florida and get someone with “star power” the obvious choice is Rubio who is much more well known than Fortuño and well liked by the tea party. Fortuño on the other hand has a record you can find fault with.

A Puerto Rican (or the Cuban Rubio) isn’t necessarily the best candidate to fire up Hispanic voters in general. The biggest group is Mexicans, most important to us in the SW states. Governor Martinez (or Sandoval) would be that candidate.

Rubio and Martinez will be considered, I doubt Fortuño will be. It is a cool idea to get someone from a US territory but that’s not a good reason in and of itself.

Just like last time when the press talked about roughly 10000 possible running mates for McCain I’m sure we’ll hear some unusual choices. That’s what happens when we have months before the choice is made.

We need a VP who can help win and would be at least a decent President themselves.


96 posted on 04/15/2012 5:54:24 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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