Posted on 04/12/2012 3:03:37 PM PDT by South40
Is the charge of murder in the Trayvon Martin case justified?
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense.
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure.
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Isn’t that something that only he knows?
Fair and equal doesn’t matter any more.
Fair? As in when BushI caved in to the communists or even asked them for advice and help in quelling the riots?
FOOLS.
This is the same cowardly voices of “establishment” and “reasons” which will sell out like cowards this country to a bunch of “we want you to be successful, Islam is peace, Obama” retards.
Way to go RINOs.
What would be fair would be to give Zimmerman say a $10,000 award by crimestoppers or whatever for preventing many future armed robberies, rapes and murders.
Prosecuting him is a serious crime in of itself.
FReeped at 6:06pm...
Is the charge of murder in the Trayvon Martin case justified?
Yes. (63%, 141 Votes)
No. (37%, 94 Votes)
Total Voters: 223
Fair?
Fair doesn’t come into it.
The charge is either right or wrong.
It is either based on legal evidence or it is based on politics.
My opinion based on KNOWN facts.
The charge is wrong and is based on politics.
The poll has flipped.
Hard to image that in this day and age this many people believe system actually works......
If the system worked the man would not have been charged. the police investigated and found no evidence to support an arrest.
Bump for more flipping votes.
There is a very old truism for the law that in controversies of life and death, the only real resolution can come by a fair trial. It was as true in the Old West as it is today.
The only way George Zimmerman will ever be truly free is to be found not guilty by a jury. There is no verdict of “innocent”, but that label may be applied by a court or a prosecutor if evidence comes to light that completely exonerates a person of the indictable offense.
That is, “They couldn’t have done it because they have an airtight alibi at a place far away from the scene of the crime.”
And “free” is relative. Like O.J. Simpson, he might be found not guilty, yet the Martin family may sue him for wrongful death, for which he could get a large fine assigned him.
Yes 47%, No 53% Total vote 311
I think that the entire matter is about money. There won’t be sufficient evidence for a criminal conviction, but that’s when the wrongful death suit will be filed against the HOA, and the City of Sanford. Should be worth a few million$$$.
(It’s redistribution of wealth and nobody really gives a damn about Trayvon). SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!
The power of the Freep is starting to become apparent.
Not with the advent of the internet, facebook, cell phones, twitter, photoshop and everyone carrying a camera with them. Most people nowadays carry more stuff to report the news as they see it, than professional reporters did, 40 yrs ago.
The police call audio of Zimmerman, sounds like he is the nicest guy you could ever meet.
You’re right, both sides stand to profit from this.
There was a lot of pressure on this one from Obama and the federal government. The state was told they better do it or else. The black groups are threatening destruction. They have no regard for the law at all. And it is only going to get worse. They seek not justice, but injustice. Their motives are Racially motivated. If Zimmerman had been black then none of this would be happening.
The Obama administration and the liberal left, are loving this whole thing, as they use it to set up the elimination of common sense laws that allow citizens to protect themselves. And ultimately to even take away the right to bear arms.
Everything good and just in this country is being turned upside down and inside out. It was all planned long ago. Americans are too stupid to see or believe it. And the ones that do can do nothing about it. All we can do is sit back and watch our country self destruct.
It has a much higher threshold of proof as it requires both motivation and per-meditation to some degree versus manslaughter.
The more I think about this, the more I think they may have done Zimmerman a favor by charging him.
Better be tried in courts than lynched by hooded racists in the dark of night.
Doesn’t matter. If you are white—you are wrong. Film and take all the photos you like. Doesn’t matter. I am not scared to speak this any longer. I am done sitting back and paying for the sins of the past. Done.
Hmmm, this probably explains why I tend to only agree with around 63% of conservatives all the time.
I don’t mean to be glib, but honestly, charging Zimmerman with murder was the ONLY choice in this case. To ignore it would have been suicidal, politically, at least.
This way, the truth comes out. And the truth IS what counts here, right?
Yes. (38%, 157 Votes)
No. (62%, 253 Votes)
Total Voters: 411
Where is the choice for: Its a stupid choice?
Horse manure!
When is the last time you have seen someone lynched by hooded racists in the middle of the night?
I do recall a Black racist named OJ Simpson be cleared by a mostly Black jury despite overwhelming proof of his guilt.
[It has a much higher threshold of proof as it requires both motivation and per-meditation to some degree versus manslaughter.]
That’s why I don’t understand why they would go through with the indictment unles it was political. The motivation and premeditation is situationally a stretch. Then you have to consider a lack of a full eyewitness account, and what there is seems to indicate Martin on top of Zimmerman.
Tie goes to the runner.
If there was a million dollar bounty on my head, I wouldn't worry about when it happened in the past but when it will happen to me.
Who made you fearful?
I’m not wrong, nor fearful. Let the ‘hate whitey G*d d^mn America’ maggots burn and they will.
I don’t have answers, just speculation. Maybe there is evidence we don’t know about and we are all wrong? Hannity hinted something the other day about possible video evidence that we haven’t heard about. I don’t know. Just taking a guess.
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense. (34%, 164 Votes)
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure. (66%, 311 Votes)
Total Voters: 476
Poor guy , How many hung jurys?
Poor guy , How many hung jurys?
Poor guy , How many hung jurys?
No’s are up to 67%.
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense.
(32%, 173 Votes)
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure.
(68%, 375 Votes)
Total Voters: 549
That is 100% correct, but that doesn’t matter at all to the race-baiter crowd, OMG2012.
IIRC, on the 911 tape Zimmerman said Marting was coming toward him?
It's sad to see what this country is coming too.
Is the charge of murder in the Trayvon Martin case justified?
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense. (30%, 185 Votes)
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure. (70%, 424 Votes)
Total Voters: 612
Gotta love the power of the FReep!
Indeed. FReepers rock!
*RANT*
It is VERY f-ing sad!
I have walked through it here on FR.
It was explained to me/us in post after post— how Florida isn’t racist because most people from Florida aren’t even from there. (the South)
From this we are to decipher that anybody from the South is innately racist and those Northern transports aren’t. No sir!
My stars and bars azz can be bitten—because that is such a bigoted statement all to itself. It is time for that storyline to go away, just as quickly as other bigoted issues. I am tired and I won’t stand for it any longer.
It was typed (forget who) how great and un-racist they were—because THEY were going to help their grateful to ‘be out of the dregs of society’ BLACK (African American)neighbor plant a garden, even LOAN a shovel!!! OMG!!!.
Black people are just like us, don’t you know. I would never have known that—it was foreign to my Southern self! *eye roll*
This non-racist person was even going to loan a shovel! A freaking shovel— you down South racist idiots! That is non-racism for you! Uh-huh. I am a chit-eating Southern racist who is about to grab the whore title.
I have always found claiming my ‘pal is black’ degrading and somehow racist in and of itself—as if someone has collected something unique and wtfever. I don’t play that card because my friend is my friend and the rest is nobody’s
business.
Whoredom here I am— my son grew up with the best there is in life. We had the best friends anyone could dream. It was the happiest days of my life.
My neighbors had a key to my house to drop the kids WAY early in the morning, the kids slept in the same bed as my kid. They licked the same durn popsicle,our kids did everything together. We were the call in case of emergency at the school for each other.
You give me Yankee white and Yankee black—they equally scare me. Most Southern blacks and whites love each other and there isn’t a difference to speak of. Only some color that stupid folk want to pretend about.
Just piss off yanks, leave us Southern folk to ourselves. We don’t need your fake *emotion* and crisis. LEAVE US ALONE! Keep your plastic crap up North!
To be a good whore, our friends were black. I think I skipped that whoredom part.
I am stars and bars loving. OMG! Save us, Yanks!
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense. (29%, 192 Votes)
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure. (71%, 460 Votes)
Total Voters: 653
Is the charge of murder in the Trayvon Martin case justified?
Yes. The charge allows the judicial process to move forward. A jury will determine whether Mr. Zimmerman acted in self-defense. (29%, 192 Votes)
No. The special prosecutor didn’t cite any new evidence to justify sidestepping state law. This is a response to political pressure. (71%, 464 Votes)
Total Voters: 656
While I think it is pretty unlikely, if Zimmerman does succeed in the "stand your ground" hearing, he becomes immune from civil suits over Trayvon's death.
It’s turned around now.
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