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George Zimmerman: Self-defense hearing could dismiss death charge
Orlando Slantinel ^ | 4/11/2012 | Henry Pierson Curtis

Posted on 04/12/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

George Zimmerman can ask to have the second-degree-murder charge against him dropped without having to stand trial in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Two years ago, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that anyone claiming "stand your ground" immunity in a death, battery or assault case can request a hearing on the evidence.

The hearing allows the prosecution and defense to argue all the elements of self-defense in the case evidence. To get charges dismissed, the accused must convince the judge that a reasonable person would believe that using deadly force or the threat of deadly force was the only way to protect his or her life, court records show.

The state's "stand your ground" law passed in 2005 says:

"A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."

In its Dec. 16, 2010, ruling, the state Supreme Court stated that defendants claiming self-defense are entitled to evidentiary hearings to argue that the evidence in their cases proves they had the right to protect themselves.

The most recent of these hearings in Orlando failed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; sanford; standyourground; trayvonmartin
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To: spacejunkie2001
They will hand pick a judge and ultimately a jury... he will be convicted! Because Holder's people demand it. I've seen this before. Backnin the 90s, right after the Rodney King affair, two white cops, plain clothes detectives, were arrested for the murder of Rodney King. The had busted him for cocain possession, he risted and wouldn't open his hand, which had coke in it, so the hit him with a flashlight. He ended up dieing, had large amounts of coke in his system, yet these two cops got 20 to life to preserve the racial peace. Justice, no! Cowardice, yes!

zimmerman is going to prison.....

Mike

21 posted on 04/12/2012 5:41:28 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: cricket
Good point; and may well be; but 'blood from a turnip' remains the challenge.

True, but Zimmerman isn't the only 'turnip' to be squeezed. They will probably try and involve the family (who do have money) because of statements Zimmerman's father has made, and they will also most likely sue the 'Gated Community' property owners for allowing a "Vigilante NEighborhood watch program' and also the City of Sanford for not 'reponding as soon as Zimmerman called and therefore endangering Trayvon, and then the State of Florida for having such a 'Henious' law as 'Stand Your Ground'.

22 posted on 04/12/2012 5:43:21 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: miss marmelstein
-- Martin's mother on the Today Show this morning called the shooting "an accident." I thought her lawyer would faint. --

ROTFL. Well, there goes all of Corey's hard shilling to get a murder charge.

23 posted on 04/12/2012 5:45:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: miss marmelstein

Accident is right. At the worst it should be negligent homicide.

Just poster another story on Stand Your Ground. A mere preponderance of the evidence is required to get the murder charges dropped.

Instead of a show trial this will go to judges.

Which means... Acquittal and riots.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 5:46:09 AM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Never going to happen..
The mob is spun up to a fever pitch...


25 posted on 04/12/2012 5:46:48 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: spacejunkie2001

People, none of you are familiar with the facts in this case. Either am I. To invest oneself in Zimmerman’s innocence is foolishness....just as in investing in Trayvon Martin’s innocence is foolishness. You should invest yourself in the facts and the facts alone...which will all come out in a court of law.

One indisputable fact is that a person is dead as a result of contact instigated by Zimmerman. This alone is troubling and should have lead to Zimmerman’s arrest the night of the killing.

With that said, yes, I can imagine scenarios where Zimmerman was defending himself but, I can also imagine scenarios where Trayvon was defending himself.

This case is now properly in the courts where the legal system can sort it out and where it should have been starting on the night in question.

The truth is, the attorney general did Zimmerman no favors by not arresting him immediately. Now, in the current charged up atmosphere, thoughtful analysis of the facts can be very easily overtaken by raw emotion, prejudices, and personal agendas (on both sides of the issue)...much like what happened in the OJ Simpson case.

A couple of months ago, George Zimmerman was just an over-zealous Neighborhood Watchmen likely with zero nefarious intent. Now, he’s in the cross hairs of the race-baters, and the politicians and has become one of the elements of the 2012 Presidential contest.

George...you now know why the 911 operator suggested that you not follow Trayvon....but, you found out too late....much too late.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 5:47:02 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mouton

If state case is dismissed or he is acquitted, feds will still file a civil rights violation case.


27 posted on 04/12/2012 5:47:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: spacejunkie2001

This case is no longer about justice and the law. It is about politics, politics of appeasement!


28 posted on 04/12/2012 5:48:22 AM PDT by varon (The patriots stand watch!)
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To: traditional1

Once they started walking the line of appeasement,
the only way it can end is with Zim’s murder by the State.

If you’re so afraid of black rioting that you’ll indict based on no evidence supporting the indictment,

you’ll be so afraid as to refuse to acquit as well,

you’ll be so afraid that you won’t pass a lesser sentence than the death penalty as well.


29 posted on 04/12/2012 5:49:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
great bodily harm to himself

that’s the key. And if he has a lawyer who didn’t get his license from a cracker jack box, that will be the end of this bad joke.

Common sense dictates this is the case. Unless, Zimmerman broke his own nose and slammed his own head to the ground. /s

30 posted on 04/12/2012 5:51:15 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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George Zimmerman 8%+ unemployment Trayvon Martin $4 gas George Zimmerman worst economy in 50 years Trayvon Martin crippling regulations George Zimmerman crony capitalists Trayvon Martin Solyndra George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin
31 posted on 04/12/2012 5:53:07 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: jdsteel
Ironic, isn't it? He along with his family have supported the very ones that wish to see him cruificed, for all their political lives in all probably.

I also believe, from the evidence,to wit: the 911 tapes that he acted within the law.

32 posted on 04/12/2012 5:55:38 AM PDT by sport
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To: cricket

Ahhh. But you forget. With the hassan case it’s part of his religion to kill infidels thus justifiable. Kind of like American Indians being able to possess certain articles like eagle feathers. It’s part of the culture so it’s okay. B on B killings, no big deal. B on W killings, no big deal. W on B killings? Just another example of whitey keepin’ the black man down. This whole thing is a disgrace. Did you read any of the comments in the slantinel? Typical he did nothing wrong and was a wonderful 13 yr old kid. Except he wasn’t 13 and he was a big kid at 17. Why didn’t he just go on home? Maybe he felt “dissed” and had to try to prove “NOBODY disses me”.

Helping keep mankind warm for almost 65 years.


33 posted on 04/12/2012 5:56:35 AM PDT by rktman
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To: commish

His so-called family only cares about the possible payday. One of the many reasons I am glad the Texas ‘Castle Doctrine’ included language specifically protecting property owners from being sued by the families of thugs shot or killed by said property owners.


34 posted on 04/12/2012 5:57:35 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: MichaelP

Dude, you got just about every fact concerning the Rodney King case wrong!! You better go back to sleep and try again tomorrow.


35 posted on 04/12/2012 6:00:46 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: miss marmelstein

I believe this is due to some not so pleasant facts about her son are about to be exposed. Think about this from the mother’s point of view. She was grieving and wanted justice. The race baiters started a frenzy and she likely felt that her son was finally getting the justice she wanted. Now the reality of a complete airing of his dirty laundry is starting to scare her. The memory of her son is about to be ripped to shreds and it was caused by her actions. It seems she is now starting to pull back to protect her son’s public image.


36 posted on 04/12/2012 6:01:51 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Mustangman
You need to read it again! I wrote about malice green in Detroit!

Mike

37 posted on 04/12/2012 6:03:29 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: Mustangman
One indisputable fact is that a person is dead as a result of contact instigated by Zimmerman. This alone is troubling and should have lead to Zimmerman’s arrest the night of the killing.

Should read

One indisputable fact is that a person is dead as a result of contact instigated by one of them, which one we do not know.Now that is a correct statement.

38 posted on 04/12/2012 6:03:29 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: MichaelP

I guess i should proofread. I was writing about Malice agreen in Detroit. Substituted king for green...


39 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:13 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: MichaelP

Unfortunately you wrote Rodney King and not Green.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 6:06:26 AM PDT by Ratman83
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