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To: csense

No offense but, I’ve had enough.
Like others before me on this thread, I tender my resignation from this forum...

...funny, isn’t it...it seems that a large number of, how to say it, unusual, people reside on this site...what used to be a very provocative, independent minded forum is now the very model of directed groupthink...sad, really...

...let us know when you find a perfect candidate, guys...

...Newt Gingrich, indeed...


1,258 posted on 04/13/2012 3:13:34 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade; All; Lazlo in PA; Antoninus; writer33; cripplecreek; napscoordinator; ...
1,258 posted on Fri Apr 13 2012 05:13:34 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by IrishBrigade: “...funny, isn’t it...it seems that a large number of, how to say it, unusual, people reside on this site...what used to be a very provocative, independent minded forum is now the very model of directed groupthink...sad, really... ...let us know when you find a perfect candidate, guys... ...Newt Gingrich, indeed...”

If there's anybody here who thinks Gingrich is a perfect candidate, it's not me. I supported Rick Santorum, with reluctance, because I think he was the best choice despite some legitimate concerns.

I'm responding with a “ping all” because I think something needs to be said that I haven't heard others saying. Read my last two paragraphs in this note. We need to get behind Gingrich, not because he's perfect, but because he's the only option left.

I've had two posts pulled because moderators believed I criticized Gingrich too strongly. Their call. (Private emails resolved both problems, BTW, and later posts saying the same thing were allowed to stay once I made clear why I was saying what I did.)

The choices now have come down to Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney.

Of those three candidates, Gingrich is the last option who I can support as an evangelical Christian. You won't hear me saying he's the best. You **WILL** hear me saying there is no other alternative left. I will also hear me saying that he has a credible claim to be personally repentant, and even if we don't believe he's repentant, he has a long track record of supporting cultural Judeo-Christian values, and that's better than the alternatives out there.

I'm not a defeatist. I don't take my marbles home and cry; I try to work with the cards I've been dealt. I can do that with Gingrich. I can't with Romney.

Romney simply cannot be trusted on key issues such as abortion and homosexual marriage. He does not meet the Romans 13 principles for civil government that, as an evangelical Christian, I need to seek out in a candidate for public office. Civil rulers are supposed to be a terror to the evil and unjust. How does Mitt Romney terrify the abortionists and advocates of homosexuality -- except that maybe they're afraid he'll keep up his flip-flops and they can't trust him either?

I sincerely believe that if Mitt Romney wins, it will be God's judgment on the Republican Party for our Laodicean compromising, and the willingness of too many Republicans to put economic improvement above moral values. Both are important, and I certainly believe in capitalism, but the Bible tells me the economy of Sodom and Gomorrah was doing pretty well, too. In Genesis 13:10, the “cities of the plain” were well-watered, but they were also exceedingly wicked, and God destroyed them not long after for their wickedness.

In a nation where people get to select their own leaders, generally people get the kind of leaders they deserve. The same goes for political parties. If the Republican Party wants to be the party of free enterprise but free of God's law so babies can be killed and homosexuals can get married, it's not my party anymore. Romney, unfortunately, seems to be taking that road.

1,271 posted on 04/13/2012 5:33:22 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: IrishBrigade

“Groupthink” is a weasel word full of assumptions and intentions to bully people through their emotions. It’s not the tactic of a thinking person but rather of a sheeple who wants to pretend to be a sheep dog. It is also so shopworn by GOP-elitists now it sounds like bleating.


1,335 posted on 04/13/2012 12:57:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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