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To: butterdezillion

Remember ... probable cause is a pretty low threshold. Also,I am going off facts I see and read which is absolutely NO substitute for Prosecutorial investigation. In no particular order

1. Armed v. unarmed
2. Police told him not to follow but he did
3. Scream was probably Treyvon
4. Pursuing obviates application of “stand your ground”. He can not avail himself of its protection.
5. Zimmerman seen straddling Treyvon’s body.
6. No evident significant injury to Zimmerman despite claim he was so injured.
7. Girlfriend’s testimony that Treyvon felt he was being followed. Treyvon turning on Martin, esp under FL law, is fine if he felt threatened.

One thing in which I would be VERY interested in would be forensics on bullet trajectory, fingerprints (if Treyvon’s were on weapon) etc.

Please understand that we attorney’s look at this VERY differently from the public at large. Part of my job was to charge a crime if I had probable cause to believe one was committed. This is why Prosecutors and Def attys of all types are being paraded across television and the Internet, almost to a man/woman, saying this is an EASY call. I said from the outset that he should/would be charged with Voluntary and Involuntary Manslaughter. I stand by that.

And I say again (because some people will argue guilt with me) ... this is VERY different from “beyond a reasonable doubt”. I’ll be the first to admit this is, seemingly, not an easy prosecution. But, that doesn’t mean you don’t prosecute it.

Hope that answers some questions. =)


298 posted on 04/11/2012 1:54:37 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo
Hope that answers some questions.

If the question was "Does RIghtwardHo have a clue?" you answered that in spades!

305 posted on 04/11/2012 2:06:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

1. Armed v. unarmed (correct)
2. Police told him not to follow but he did (wrong)
3. Scream was probably Treyvon (says who?)
4. Pursuing obviates application of “stand your ground”. He can not avail himself of its protection.(he was being held down and beaten)
5. Zimmerman seen straddling Treyvon’s body.(BS. Where did you see this)
6. No evident significant injury to Zimmerman despite claim he was so injured.(what did you want? Brains spewing from his head?)
7. Girlfriend’s testimony that Treyvon felt he was being followed. Treyvon Treyvon turning on Martin, esp under FL law, is fine if he felt threatened.(Beating someone because they may be following you is ok in Florida?)

Your first point was fine. Rule #1. Never go to a gun fight with a knife. Or in this case with your fists.

Other than that you pretty much have a large case of FAIL!!!


312 posted on 04/11/2012 2:25:36 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
1. Armed v. unarmed 6'-4" vs 5'-9".
2. Police told him not to follow but he did. Lie, 911 suggested he not do so.
3. Scream was probably Treyvon. Martin's father said otherwise.
4. Pursuing obviates application of “stand your ground”. He can not avail himself of its protection. No indication Zimmerman "pursued" Martin.
5. Zimmerman seen straddling Treyvon’s body. Need a cite as this is never happened.
6. No evident significant injury to Zimmerman despite claim he was so injured. Yes there was per the photos.
7. Girlfriend’s testimony that Treyvon felt he was being followed. Treyvon turning on Martin, esp under FL law, is fine if he felt threatened. Yeah, I trust what this chick said days or weeks later. Especially seeing how "nolimitni@@er tweeted about women.

NO substitute for Prosecutorial investigation.

I pray not because your info is a month old and all of it is wrong.

338 posted on 04/11/2012 4:20:56 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: RIghtwardHo
Please understand that we attorney’s look at this VERY differently from the public at large.

Of course you do.....Your attorney's after all.

354 posted on 04/11/2012 8:15:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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