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Campus Police Detain and Draw Weapons on Student Activist for Wearing Empty Holster
Buckeye Firerams Association ^ | 9 April, 2012 | cbaus

Posted on 04/11/2012 9:53:16 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: GOYAKLA; marktwain

In John Lott’s book he stated his research showed LEO’s shot the wrong person 12% of the time. CCW holders about 1%...


81 posted on 04/11/2012 4:39:54 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: muir_redwoods

Post of the day!


82 posted on 04/11/2012 4:48:19 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: MrB

>That veil of protection needs to be pierced for law enforcement at all levels.

Very much agreed; I am currently thinking of tackling the situation in my current state via its own State Constitution. (Which prohibits laws creating another “class of citizen,” I’m currently working on an argument that all the exceptions for “law enforcement” create a de facto second class of citizen: one which is exempt from many laws.)


83 posted on 04/11/2012 4:49:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mwilli20
-- If you think about it he was really detained for a thought crime.


84 posted on 04/11/2012 4:55:33 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( European-American (/sarc))
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To: TalonDJ

Its clear you haven’t been paying attention to police shootings for the last 15 years.

If you want to pull a dark object out of a holster as the police come upon the scene, go ahead and do so. Just don’t ascribe that type of idiocy to the rest of us.

You can either respond to the realities of life or live (or die) in a fantasy world.


85 posted on 04/11/2012 6:03:31 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: marktwain

The proper response would be fifty or more students wearing empty holsters next time.

I used to be unhappy I never had the chance to attended college, now I’m glad.


86 posted on 04/11/2012 6:24:49 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: marktwain

Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.


87 posted on 04/11/2012 7:26:21 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: marktwain; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; sickoflibs
okay, so the catchall 'disorderly conduct' charge is often used when someone open carries and possibly causes some random citizen to wet their panties...how the hell does an empty holster scare anyone ???

this guy being 'high profile', needs to file civil suits against the individual cops, their dept, as well as the universoty president and any of his admin that supported him for Rights deprivation and RICO too...

until this starts happening, the bullies with badges and ivory tower types will continue to use government guns on the citizenry...

88 posted on 04/11/2012 8:31:59 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Wear a holster? Where is the gun? There lies the problem as a policeman sees it.

or, to follow that logic, *Dont* Wear a holster? Where is the gun? There lies the problem as a policeman sees it.

same difference...

before long, everytime i see a cop gun, im going to consider calling in a man with a gun report...see if barney can find his own ass with both hands...literally...

89 posted on 04/11/2012 8:39:18 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; marktwain; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; sickoflibs

” this guy being ‘high profile’, needs to file civil suits against the individual cops, their dept, as well as the universoty president and any of his admin that supported him for Rights deprivation and RICO too...”

YES!

These nervous nellies would faint if they went out to a grocery store in AZ. Guns everywhere : )


90 posted on 04/11/2012 8:45:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Id like to read it when its done, if thats possible...


91 posted on 04/11/2012 8:56:42 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Respond Code Three
Hmmmmm......and where do you live?
92 posted on 04/12/2012 12:06:25 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Respond Code Three
Upon reflection...let's assume you know/knew police killed or wounded by gunfire in the line of duty. That can include cops who shot themselves or were shot by other cops.

Your post seems to imply then that those who were not killed or wounded by gunfire do in fact support a totalitarian state.

93 posted on 04/12/2012 12:17:58 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: MrB
That veil of protection needs to be pierced for law enforcement at all levels. Anyone who is authorized by the state to use deadly force against the citizens of this country bear an extra burden of conduct.

I agree.

94 posted on 04/12/2012 4:09:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
Take a group, identity, category, professionalism; cherry pick the very worst among them, then apply to all their ilk. Sounds like an Alinsky tactic (i.e. democrat tactic).

I could apply the same tactic towards everyone from Georgia. However, I'm not a bigot.

95 posted on 04/12/2012 4:10:01 AM PDT by Toadman (To piss off a conservative, tell a lie. To piss off a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: Respond Code Three; Zuben Elgenubi
Simple math will show that I have worked with at least 4 officers who were killed or injured by gunfire in the line of duty

It all hinges on what you mean by "worked with"

Let's assume that you work in one of the most dangerous cities - Baltimore and looking at the number of police killed by gunfire in the the last 20 years we get seven. The Baltimore police department is a bit over three thousand officers and a number of non-sworn employees. You didn't say they were friends, only that you worked with them. So, for example if you worked for the Baltimore PD, and you claimed that you worked with all 3000 then technically speaking you are correct.

However, if by "worked with" you mean on a day to day basis and that they were actually friends, then the numbers become tenuous. Looking at the typical number of friends from SNA (150) and saying that about 1/2 are from work, we get 75 or the odds that you actually knew any one that got killed are 75/3000 or .025. The odds of your being friends with two of them drop to .000625 or 1 in 1600 with three the odds drop to 0.000015625 or 1 in 64,000. You can see why I have a problem with what you said.

96 posted on 04/12/2012 5:08:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Toadman
Take a group, identity, category, professionalism; cherry pick the very worst among them, then apply to all their ilk

Who's cherry picking the worst? News reports of police abuse are common almost reaching the dog bites man status.

97 posted on 04/12/2012 5:11:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: morphing libertarian
Its clear you haven’t been paying attention to police shootings for the last 15 years.

Just because some police have been incompetent boobs does not mean that a citizen 'deserves' to get shot for doing something perfectly legal. Are they likely to get shot? Yeah probably. But you did not SAY that. You said they deserve it. That is a whole freaking different thing.
98 posted on 04/12/2012 6:34:37 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

If you pull a dark object out of a holster when the cops are working, you deserve whatever reaction you get. It seems we disagree, but I would be glad to present your eulogy and tell folks you believed you didn’t deserve what happened to you and that you knew some cops were incompetent, but you decided to test the water anyway.

You’re one of those rare people who would rather be right and dead, rather than safe. My sympathies to your family.


99 posted on 04/12/2012 7:55:53 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: from occupied ga; starlifter

Your curiosity about me is kind, however it contributes no useful information to the thread. Bye for now, and I look forward to your contributions on further threads regarding police matters in which I might participate.


100 posted on 04/12/2012 8:31:17 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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