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Okay, I didn’t realize that DHS blasts away “buck a bullet” defensive ammo on ranges to requal. This is a huge waste of money, wouldn’t you agree? Is it too complicated to have two categories of ammo, say, “range ammo-cheap,” and “tactical ammo, expensive?”

As far as DHS being used against the people, it’s not a matter of what you or “the troops” think or feel. It’s a matter of what Obama/Holder etc think or feel. Your feelings on the matter don’t mean anything, you don’t make policy.

Now, would Obama and Holder maybe run into a huge problem with the troops if they ordered them to begin, for example, random highway checkpoints? Yes. Will that stop Obama/Holder from initiating such plans? I don’t know.

But remember, Obama’s mentor and ghost writer is Bill Ayers, and you know about another fed agent, undercover, who recorded Ayers and his WU pals, when they said as many as 25 million bitter clingers would have to be killed? They were not going to be killed by space aliens, but FLEAs. You might thinki it’s absurd and a joke. Shoot, most soldiers and police in Germany in 1932 probably thought Hitler was a joke with his fevered imagination.

But it wasn’t a joke. Ayeras, Obama and Holder are not joking either. And with “Fast and Furious,” they have already proven that mass murder is just one more option to utilize to accomplish a political end result. We have already crossed the mass-murder Rubicon, that river is behind us now, not in front.

So please don’t wonder why we are worried about 450 million rounds of frangible anti-personnel .40 ammo have been ordered. Maybe in your world, buck-a-bullet defensive ammo is used to punch paper in requals. In my world, buck-a-bullet defensive ammo is saved to use against people, outside of a little function testing.

I understand the concern about the the ammo. But there are things that in my opinion are much more insidious. Obama and his minions are afraid of us. They know we will make short work of them in open violent confrontation. That is why they are never going to do us the favor of creating some galvanizing event. Instead they are going to continue to use our respect for the rule of law against us. When doctors deny conservatives medical care, are we going to shoot the doctors? When banks refuse to lend conservatives money are going to shoot the bankers? There is always going to be this modicum of plausible deniability that prevents conservatives from doing anything at least violently. Conservatives need to be just as enthusiastic about activism as they are about guns. If we dont’ push back politically we will all be sitting on a pile of guns with no freedom.

I probably know the least of anyone here, but here's my two bits:

As far as the government wasting money, heck, that's SOP from what I've seen over the years.

I forget who got this huge ammo order (ATK?), but maybe they made DHS a helluva deal. Buy in bulk, and maybe those buck-a-bullet rounds aren't a buck a bullet. I have also read where as more and more guv agencies are moving to frangible, from the military on down. Supposedly this partially explains why there is so much Federal M855 to be had right now -- and price is no object when saving the planet (by shooting it up $;-).

Given the number of people Ajnin mentions along with the 5-year time frame for this allotment, and I can see 450,000,000 can get gobbled up. One also has to wonder how much of this will end up in someone's personal stash.

That said, would the current administration, given the right circumstances, be happy to dump as much of this into us bitter clingers as they could get away with? I have no doubt. But that's the rub -- they can't pull it off without putting too much of their own skins in the game. I have no doubt what powerful cretins like Obama and Holder would like to do, but as long as there exists too much potential for "loss of unit cohesion" and other little ugly unpredictables like that, they can't. They might get a pinkie-nail broken; too high a price for these cowards to pay. Ya just have to keep in their heads enough of that nagging doubt.

And so the balance of power is maintained. We live in interesting times.

Stay safe, everyone.