My dog knows I’m dominant, the Alpha, and is perfectly obedient at home unless he sees a person or animal. I would have to tazer him senseless. He’s not really a candidate for an electric collar. His dominant dog collar is designed to cut off his air supply without doing physical damage so he’ll either get a clue or pass out. Several times he’s come close to passing out while still trying to attack, which allowed me turn him away and drag him into the house. I’ve trained multiple dogs over my lifetime, read volumes on dog training, been to obedience classes and worked personally with a dog trainer. My dog needs someone who is knowledgeable and experienced and can work with a dog like mine.
“Once you teach the dog to go down, they accept their role as a submissive. If you put him in a down, and let your daughter near him (while muzzled), and then shocked him when he growled, he would have stopped growling, and eventually let her do anything to him.”
How do you teach a dog that has gone submissive, stays submissive, doesn’t growl, allows the stranger to pet them, but by his eyes says he’s killing when the muzzle comes off? How do you discipline a thought crime?
“he sees a person or animal. I would have to tazer him senseless”
The collar creates a buring, searing pain which the dog can’t stand. He will not be able to focus on the attack, while that pain is wracking him. That break in his focus, as he reflexively looks at his neck, and jumps away from the pain, is all you need to get his attention on you and seize control.
Those collars which cut off the air supply don’t produce the same effect, trust me. The sudden *shock* is not there.
“How do you discipline a thought crime?”
I haven’t seen your dog personally, but I suspect the problem is he didn’t have the *shock* which the collar gives, every time he thought about attacking in the beginning. That sudden shock is what triggers the amygdala, produces aversive stimuli, and conditions him to look to you, and follow your command.
Like I said, I have seen two dogs who couldn’t be stopped from fighting become so conditioned to not growl or threaten, that they actually liked each other. I know for a fact that dominant dog collar wouldn’t have produced that effect, as it would have been just like a prong, without the surprise or pain.
Try new things. You can’t knock them until they fail you personally.
Good luck.