Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

[Steelfish]

Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."

Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.

"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.

Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."

Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.

Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.

A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.

"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.

Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''

[trappedincanuckistan]

Wouldn’t a deadly attack by definition have to result in death, and isn’t that a little late to be decided on the nature of the attack?

[alice_in_bubbaland]

What with all the yammering and screaming, I don’t know what the truth is anymore:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-witness-claims-trayvon-martin-attacked-george-zimmerman/

[Uncle Slayton]

“I heard the 911 call. Sounded to me like Zimmerman should have done what the dispatcher said.”

George Zimmerman is a Captain in the local Neighborhood Watch and as an offIcial officer he does not and should not take orders from a clerk answering phone calls at 911, Especially, when Zimmerman found himself being stalked by a scary man in a hoodie.

[trappedincanuckistan]

deciding

[achilles2000]

Martin was subdued because deadly force had been used to repel his potentially lethal attack. Martin wasn’t shot after Zimmerman was able to get up.

[rlmorel]

org.whodat, you know that the physical fight was started by Zimmerman, then? Can you provide some evidence on that for those of us who don’t know?

[Post Toasties]

Since Martin was already shot, the best thing Zimmerman could do was to leave him alone until qualified medical help arrived.

[org.whodat]

Prove what, that is what they have all said, and when you have a real authorized community watch group, their rules say you cannot carry a weapon and you cannot approach anyone, you can only watch from a distance. Zimmerman had no legal authorization to approach and start and altercation with anyone. And knock off the personal crap.

[Jonah Johansen]

On thing you can be sure of is that once Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the lawyers arrive the witness will be coached, their testimony will change from what they originally told the police, they will suddenly remember new details; whatever it takes to further those promoting racial hatred false narrative.
It has happened over again and over again in virtually every high profile racially charged case.
You can also be 100% guaranteed that no matter how dishonest, unbelievable, uncredible the new story is; the press will treat it as if it is the gospel truth and you are a racist. if you don't accept it.

[Post Toasties]

You mean Martin started the fight, not Zimmerman.

[mcjordansc]

If someone has me pinned to the ground, already broken my nose, and is still pummeling me, I’ll do any and EVERYTHING to stop him. So, if Trayvon Martin feared for his life because he was being followed by a suspicious man, does he have the right to fight back? Does the stand your ground law not apply to him? Just a question. I will wait for the entire story to be released before making a final judgment on this case.

[ExTxMarine]

You have absolutely NO proof that Zimmerman started the fight!

You THINK he started the fight, but neither you, and apparently the police, have any PROOF!

That is the major problem with this situation -and TOO MUCH SPECULATION! We know he followed Martin and we know he said he lost site of Martin. If the MSM is to be believed, then a 140 pound kid somehow knocked down and got on top of a 200+ pound MAN who was actively stalking him. Can you explain THAT?

[ClearCase_guy]

I don’t know what the truth is anymore:

Heck, I don't even care what the truth is anymore. I really don't.

This isn't about Zimmerman.
It isn't about Trayvon Martin.
It isn't about Stand Your Ground.
It isn't about the Sanford, Florida police dept.

This has become how White People are bad, and Black People are victims, and we have an evil, racist society, and we must re-elect Barack Obama, so that he can raise our taxes and take away our freedoms and finish his destruction of what the Founders gave to us.

I won't play that game anymore.

Blacks are shot by blacks every damn day, and precious few people care about that. Why should the death of Trayvon Martin be national news for weeks and weeks? It's not about him. It's about taking a stick and beatin' de white folks in de head wi' it.

I say no more. I'm done with racial politics.

[Post Toasties]

Wouldn’t a deadly attack by definition have to result in death, and isn’t that a little late to be decided on the nature of the attack?

Not if the deadly attack was interrupted by, say, a gunshot.

[TASMANIANRED]

Try being on the receiving end of someone sitting you and pummeling you face before you decide if was non-deadly.

[Mechanicos]

Here is the Latest OFFICIAL report of the shooting.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

Here is a News Report from a MONTH ago interviewing eye witnesses:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4

Here is more information from neighbors:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120321195530AALPKWj

Please educate yourself before your ignorance gets innocent people killed.

[Post Toasties]

Martin had no legal authorization to approach and start an altercation with anyone.

Fixed your post for you.

[Post Toasties]

Martin had no legal authorization to approach and start an altercation with anyone.

Fixed your post for you.

[org.whodat]

The young boys girl friend said, she heard the altercation zimmerman started with the boy, and then his phone went dead, there is five minutes unaccounted for from the time the phone went dead and zimmerman murdered the kid. Once again, the man who authored the law says you are not permitted under his law to start an altercation and then claim stand your ground. And so says the governor. So all you have is your weak opinion.

[Pox]

First off, don’t get your panties in a wad, I’m NOT getting personal, and if you have an issue with what I’ve posted, go cry to the mods.

Self Defense is Self Defense. You do NOT know all of the facts, and neither do I. They will eventually be known to all, at least those that can be extracted from all witnesses and surviving participants.

It doesn’t matter how any of us interpret the currently known facts, but to make the asinine assertions you are posting does no justice to either the deceased nor the survivor.

From what we know, it does NOT matter how the “altercation” began, the deceased had NO right to simply start pummeling the survivor, and at that point, he was well within his rights to defend himself with any means at his disposal, IMO. To assert otherwise is insane, IMO.

Would you tell a woman who was being raped that she shouldn’t have been wearing such provocative clothing and that she should just lie there and take what she deserves?

Consider that absurdity of your declaration.