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George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin case: Neighbors describe watch leader blamed for teen's death
wptv ^ | 3/23/2012

Posted on 03/23/2012 4:58:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: wtc911
What other side would there be other than those who are not in posession of the facts?
141 posted on 03/23/2012 9:40:26 AM PDT by csense
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To: wtc911

“Martin tried to get away from the stranger”
That’s one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it was he was running away cause he was up to no good. But we don’t have any evidence of that. Either.

“who was stalking him by car and on foot. Zimmerman says so himself on the tape”

Zimmerman said he was stalking him? That’s a new one.

“We also know from the tape that an armed Zimmerman followed and pursued Martin”

Followed, yes. Pursued? I guess that depends on your agenda. Anything illegal or sinister about following a suspicious person in your neighborhood?


142 posted on 03/23/2012 9:45:01 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel
According to DOJ crime statistics, blacks are 12% of the population, but commit 50% of the murders.

Odd how the MSM doesn't include that kind of information in their breathless victim stories./s

Thanks for sharing, Joe. Facts and truth matter to conservatives - that's a nice thing about us:)

143 posted on 03/23/2012 9:49:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: wtc911; Jack Hydrazine
Want to shut me up? Show the witness tapes/statements that say that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
WTC911, all I hear is crickets. I guess Jack doesn't want you to shut up.
144 posted on 03/23/2012 10:11:23 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Imagine if and when they find an actual real case to jump on.

Append to that: "that suits their political agenda" and you've got a point.

Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Obama's eligibility... these are all blockbuster issues that the MSM refuse to cover because they are NOT politically expedient to their cause.

145 posted on 03/23/2012 10:13:19 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Road Glide; saleman

Okay...fine...but if Zimmerman was following him, Zimmerman was the aggressor. And...we have it from Zimmerman’s mouth that he was following him.


146 posted on 03/23/2012 10:25:08 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m regularly amused by candid chats with shop owners and gas station attendants. It’s really mind-boggling how the black community can be so castigated and seen as almost universally criminal. White, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, Arab, and even other black shop owners consistently tell the tale that when a black patron walks through their doors, they are more likely to follow them or watch them than they are to watch a white, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, or Arab person.

Blacks are seen as criminals in this country for some reason or another, yet despite over a century of freedom and decades of “equality,” they’re no better off, some would even say they’re WORSE off.

The black community thrives on misery. They thrive on the bully pulpit garbage that the likes of Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Obama sling on a regular basis. If blacks would realize that they have just as much opportunity with hard work as the likes of Sowell, Cain, and West, perhaps they would be cast down much less often than they do already. They’ve been free for centuries, yet they still think they’re second-class citizens. That’s an issue of self-identification, not truth.


147 posted on 03/23/2012 10:25:58 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: wtc911
What we know is that an un-armed Martin tried to get away from the stranger who was stalking him by car and on foot. Zimmerman says so himself on the tape. That is action to avoid confrontation.

And then what happened?

We also know from the tape that an armed Zimmerman followed and pursued Martin. That is an aggressive action.

Was he walking or running? Was he doing anything in particular that was aggressive or illegal?

148 posted on 03/23/2012 10:33:00 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Clara Lou; Jack Hydrazine

Jack ain’t got jack.


149 posted on 03/23/2012 10:34:02 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Moonman62
Police Report: Zimmerman was bleeding from a head wound to the BACK of his head. Doesn't that indicate to even the most stupid that he was hit from behind! Face was bleeding, wouldn't that also indicate that he was beaten. Further reports were that he was yelling for help (victims father denied that the voice on the 911 tape was his sons. Maybe all the girlie-boys need to get their facts straight before arriving at a decision.
150 posted on 03/23/2012 10:39:42 AM PDT by JayAr36
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To: JayAr36

I wonder if Martin had any injuries other than the gun shot wound. I imagine the media would have let us know by now if he did.


151 posted on 03/23/2012 10:54:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SoothingDave

The neighborhood was 49% white. There were black neighbors of Zimmerman who liked him and appreciated his efforts in the neighborhood watch. I cannot believe such an old timer as you are so full of idiocy, spouting msm lies and you apparently refuse to read anything other than the lies.


152 posted on 03/23/2012 11:28:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Dudoight

“..but if Zimmerman was following him, Zimmerman was the aggressor. And...we have it from Zimmerman’s mouth that he was following him.”

That be wrong ag’in.

Was not Zimmerman on something called “neighborhood watch” in a gated community? If so, he would be within the bounds of his actions by checking out someone who did not seem to belong there....


153 posted on 03/23/2012 12:00:54 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: SoothingDave
Idiot1 stalks idiot2, idiot2 jumps idiot1, idiot1 shoots idiot2.

Repeat 1000 times, this is America. Too many people want this case to be like TV with good guys and bad guys.

154 posted on 03/23/2012 12:14:24 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: SoothingDave

Note, the word is “watch,” not “accost.”


The klan with a tan media (critical race theorists) has claimed Zimmerman accosted the victim, but that assertion is not supported by the evidence, so far. They have claimed that Zimmerman is white and he’s not - he’s hispanic. They claim the black yute is perfectly innocent “kid” and he is not.

This reminds me of the Lax players at Duke. The liberal racists had all the anti-white racist evidience they made up there, too.

The black kid might not have been all blessed and holy like you assume...based purely on liberal race doctrines and stereotypes. They made a black whore into the virgin Mary.

Given the track record of the pack of lying animals after Zimmerman, I am not siding with the racist noose carriers without clear evidence. You can do that if it feels racially safer. We have had a huge number of black on white hate crimes this pack of hate whitey race theory animals have totally ignored.


155 posted on 03/23/2012 12:16:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Moonman62

Not being a gun owner this may be out in left field. But if I had a gun and thought a person I was approaching or who was approaching me presented a danger to me you better believe my gun would be front in center letting them know very clearly the possible consequences of any aggressive moves on their part.

Heck I think even announcing “I am armed do not come near me.” would give the other person a pretty dang good idea that you were serious about defending yourself and that his best option would be to leave you alone.


156 posted on 03/23/2012 12:59:59 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Road Glide

Well in many parts of the South such a suggestion is understood to be getting told. When I was in school and a teacher said very sweetly “I need you to sit down” I knew I better sit down right then.


157 posted on 03/23/2012 1:08:11 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

In reality, going up to someone you consider “suspicious” and showing them that you have a weapon is likely considered “brandishing” which is a crime.


158 posted on 03/23/2012 1:13:53 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Has that become a get-out-jail-free card for wanton, cold-blooded murder?

I pray you don't get a get-out-jail-free card for wanton, cold-blooded slander.

Oh, slander that you're doing for pay.

In order to trigger race riots.

To enable totalitarianism to take over a free country.

Vile, you are indeed.

159 posted on 03/23/2012 1:16:54 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Dudoight
Did you listen to the dispatcher when he asked ‘are you following him?’ Zimmerman said ‘yes’. The dispatcher said, “you don’t need to do that.” That should have ended it and the child would be alive today. Zimmerman was stalking Martin. If anyone needed the protection of the ‘stand your ground’ law, it was Martin. Zimmerman was the aggressor. I listened to the calls. You need to do the same....rather than make accusations.

Martin wasn't a child - he was a baby. In diapers. With a rattle. He had skittles because he could suck them, since his teeth hadn't come in yet.

He also had psychic powers - did you know that? Yes, full ESP. Because when Zimmerman was firing 12 bazooka rounds into his tiny baby body, he didn't want any eyewitnesses to be upset by the gore. So instead, he beamed a different scene into their minds - that of a 6'3", 160 lb, 17 year old football player circling back and rushing Zimmerman, who had told the police he lost visual contact and was going back to his car, and then breaking Zimmerman's nose and bloodying his face and knocking him down, and getting ready to attack again, with Zimmerman yelling for help to the neighborhood and on 911 before he shot him out of self-defense while under violent attack.

ESP.

160 posted on 03/23/2012 1:26:56 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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