Posted on 03/18/2012 10:14:19 PM PDT by VinL
I agree. I would like to see a Tea Party backed candidate as v-p. You set up an interesting scenario—a one term Repub prez to do the “dirty work” that needs to be done. It requires getting more Tea Party backed Senators and Reps elected to push him in that direction.
Regardless of who pulled what issue off his website it’s HIS responsibility to direct the conversation. He had a national audience, free publicity...NATIONAL free publicity. He could have said something that acknowledged the importance of morality and enforcing the law, then added BUT right now the American people are hurting, etc. It’s not that I or anyone else thinks morality isn’t important but he had a chance to talk to the American people about what he’s going to do turn the economy around. Of course we expect him to enforce the laws on the books. The problem is, someone who wants to be president has to know how to control a conversation and talk about 1st priorities. How I feel or how you feel about porn is NOT the issue. Even if a majority of the country agrees with Santorum about pornography, the family whose house is underwater, struggling to buy gas to get back and forth to work isn’t going to think, “Whew! Glad he’s going to do that!” They’re thinking, “but what is he going to do about lowering gas prices?”. Yes, he was asked about it, but he’s got to be smart enough to not get sucked in. THAT’S the point. I understand it’s at the bottom of his website but most of America doesn’t know that and doesn’t know much about Santorum (remember we’re political junkies). He could have been that candidate “with the strong moral compass who has great ideas for turning the country around”. Instead he’s the guy that wants to ban porn. Either he frames the message or the press will do it for him. As long as he’s been in public life he should know this by now.
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Newt’s people are against Santorum winning. That’s cool, they beleive in Newt, and are loyal to his campaign. And truth be told, Santorum isn’t that great a candidate or likely to be the type of hellraiser we really need to gut the beast, though he is light years ahead of Romney.
On top of that Newt has access to internals which may show his people breaking for Romney, so by staying in maybe he helps Santorum. (Newt may be getting a lot of support from a bloc which want’s an “electable” candidate. If he drops, they may go to Romney, because they think he will do better than Santorum against 0bama.)
All of that is fine so far, but we are coming to a point (if it hasn’t passed already) where Santorum will not be able to win.
At that point, Newt’s people need to vote for Santorum to keep Romney below 1140 delegates, and send this to the convention. We need to make clear that at that point, a vote for Santorum becomes a vote for “Neither Santorum or Romney.”
Our nation has one last hope in this election cycle. If we send it to the convention, we have a chance at the delegates selecting a highly electable Conservative of some sort.
I think God has shown us that when our nation hangs in the balance, He is not averse to diving in, and gving us the bump we need to make good things happen. We need to give Him a chance here.
Gingrich has said he won’t win outright now. That means if we don’t send it to the convention we will have Santorum or Romney.
The problem is we can’t wait too long for Newt’s people (and those unhappy with Romney) to join with the Santorum vote to keep Romney from 1140. There will be a sweet spot when we can act and still have an effect, and it will be passed quickly.
Once again, Rino Romney wins a primary in a state which will go for Obama in Nov.
This is what is so important to understand. Romney is doing well where Obama did well in ‘08. Now who do you think will get those votes this time? (I don’t know. am asking what y’all think).
“have Romney do the very hard things that must necessarily be done”
Apparently you’ve been drinking the Romnuts kool-aid, citizen.
Don’t count on the Massachusetts Moderate to do anything even faintly resembling Conservative reform.
He’s an appeaser, McCain II, Obama Light, who would “reach across the aisle” and not give Tea Partiers any more time or attention than he gave his dog.
And look at Biden to know how much influence a Veep has. Biden’s only job right now is to attack Republicans so Bam doesn’t have to get his hands dirty.
The Massachusetts Moderate and his Ego would be in it for the long haul... and in 2020, who knows what the political landscape will look like? Could be a Rat’s dream if they have a majority in either the House and Senate or both.
I could just as well argue that we should push for more big government socialist programs in our campaign because we don't want to lose the votes of people who are afraid we'll cut off their welfare bennies. Why you or me should argue against promoting conservative principles in order to get votes is a mystery to me. And you're darn tootin' the Republican party should be in the business of legislating morality. We want Roe vs. Wade overturned and we want a federal definition of marriage amendment for two things. We're not libertarians, thank God. Nor are we liberals. The desire of too many RINOs to saw off the social conservatism plank of the Republican party all of a sudden is insidious and dangerous and must be rejected if either the country or the party is to survive.
I’ll vote for Santorum if he’s our nominee (although I find his pompous demeanor irritating), but if he makes his moral prescription for the country a centerpiece of his platform I think his chances of prevailing are non-existent.
Santorum outperforms the polling, ROmney underperforms a bit and Newt couldn’t get elected dogcatcher in a national election. Those are the cold, hard and cruel facts. And here’s another one, Romney is gonna be the nominee. I’m sure I’ll throw up a little in my mouth when I vote for him in the race against Obama but vote for him I will for all the usual reasons, number one being that there may still be time for the nation to recover though that’s a big “may”.
They're such stupid ads that their success speaks ill of the average Illinois Republican. Knocking Santorum for voting for some bills that included Planned Barrenhood funding - while all Mittens did was run against Ted Kennedy with a pledge to be the most pro-choice senator in state history.
Newt get out now! Oh wait...that means Romney wins 51-36.
naps I hate to point out that Rick blew big leads in both Michigan and Ohio, and Newt withdrawing from Illinois would mean that Romney would win 51-36.
1144 needed to clinch, 1324 remaining
Candidate, Won, percent of remainder needed
If Romney is awarded all of Puerto Rico (23) and Santorum all of Missouri (52) under standard rule of winner take all if absolute majority is won, then the numbers are:
IOW, the trend is our friend. But the gap isn't closing fast enough. Yet.
Things get even more bleak, however, if you add the 69 delegates of Illinois to the Romney column:
Sure, it is mathematically possible for any of them to still win. Even if they hadn't won a single delegate, it would be possible to win by getting only 97% of the remaining delegates to be awarded. But what is possible isn't what is likely. The window of opportunity for Newt to put his ego on the shelf is rapidly closing.
Well 2006 many Repubs were thrown out giving us the worst Speaker of the House in history.
Yes, Lincoln won because the Democrat party was split due to the Southern States, however most of New England which was where the majority of the population was voted for Lincoln.
I agree that we should hope for a brokered convention. If that happens, the convention would be more suspenseful and exciting, causing more people to watch and hear the great republican ideas.
The result of what you advocate could be Romney at 49-51% and Santorum at 36-38% in Illinois based on multi-state polling which asked about a three-way race with Romney-Santorum-Paul only.
North Carolina is 31-27-20 (M-S-N), if Newt got out the most favorable expected split puts Mitt at 40, Santorum at 38. Santorum loses.
Alabama? Santorum is third, 34-28-33 (M-S-N), no Newt? Santorum loses 48-46.
If he's not within 2-3% of Romney on his own, he would lose even assuming the highest polled percentage, 57%, broke his way.
The way to stop Romney, if that's your aim, is for everyone to stay in and block him from an outright win.
If Newt endorsed Santorum, campaigned with him, and was announced as Santorum’s V.P., Santorum would get most of his votes. Also, the way the IL polling looks, Santorum could end up losing conservative districts in the South by a few points that could have been made up with votes from the Newtster. These guys are going to have to team up at the convention with their delegates anyway to win anything. Why don’t they team up now and form a ticket that might be attractive to more voters than they are separately?
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