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MSNBC, denigrating Christianity and Catholicism in particular since as long as anyone can remember.
1 posted on 03/17/2012 3:03:43 PM PDT by caldera599
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MSNBC, denigrating Christianity and Catholicism in particular since as long as anyone can remember.

My thoughts just reading the headline.
2 posted on 03/17/2012 3:06:52 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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I thought St.Patrick drove the slaves out of Ireland.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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may well have been a tax collector for the Romans who fled to Ireland where he could have traded slaves...

He may have been a Visigoth transvestite spy who could have put on a lavender toga and danced the maranga in high heels while juggling flaming weasels. Did he ever deny it?

I thought not.

5 posted on 03/17/2012 3:13:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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More revisionist BS to undermine our culture & traditions; this is the kind of BS I would have expected from the History Channel nowadays (sandwiched between “documentaries” on the many wives of Jesus and His mother’s black slaves she mistreated).

We’ll be bombarded with the most bizarre nonsense, but not much on St. Patrick or the Irish on TV today.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 3:15:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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St. Patrick On March 17, 2012, in Catholic Saint of the Day, by uCatholic
8 posted on 03/17/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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So Saint Patrick was a liar when he told of his life in Ireland and we know this because it was possible that he might have fled Britain for personal gain and it was possible that he might have take slaves with him. And this is called scholarship?
11 posted on 03/17/2012 3:35:43 PM PDT by Petrosius
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...who fled to Ireland where he could have traded slaves to pay his way…..believes there are reasonable grounds to question the popular version which is based partly on Patrick's own words.

Show me the receipts…!

13 posted on 03/17/2012 3:41:51 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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Someone was working hard to find something controversial to say about St. Patrick. This is beneath the level of Ancient Aliens-style speculation.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 3:57:51 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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Hmmmm...NO primary or secondary sources? Must be purely attempting to question/revise history to support some agenda...


17 posted on 03/17/2012 4:21:27 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Cambridge prof says “there are reasonable grounds” - means no hard evidence. Just liberals trashing St. Patrick.


19 posted on 03/17/2012 4:45:19 PM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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I am surprised they are not claiming he was gay.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 4:47:23 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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Happy St. Patrick’s Day! :)

You might get a kick out of this Irish Jig! http://lizabdesired.hubpages.com/_wh3d3iyg0t1q/video/happy-st-patricks-day-2012


21 posted on 03/17/2012 4:52:23 PM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things that ever came out of the academic mind. St Patrick wrote an autobiography and was not responding to “charges” of any kind. Kidnapping by Irish raiders was quite common, and he went and worked peacefully as a shepherd for 6 years until he had a dream of an angel telling him to go down to the harbor and he would find a ship that could take him away. The legend is that he went to the Continent with a shipload of Irish hounds being sent to France to be sold for hunting dogs for the nobility.

His Latin was very poor when he arrived in Europe and he actually had to relearn it so that he could make it through his priestly training, although it is not known where he did this.

When he returned to Ireland at the Pope’s orders (after the Briton Pelagius had failed in his commission) he looked up his former owner and paid him the price that the owner had paid for him when the owner bought him.

St Patrick’s father was a Christian Roman and does not seem to have been trying to “get out” of anything. He was not a very high-ranking official and certainly calling him “aristocracy” is a bit of an overreach.

But nothing is too much of an overreach for a loser academic who’s going nowhere with his life and doing nothing but sniping.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 5:25:17 PM PDT by livius
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Leave St. Patrick alone!! I like the legend I’ve known since I was a wee lass!


24 posted on 03/17/2012 6:04:01 PM PDT by jch10
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If MSNBC doesn’t survey the sewers for stories, who will?


28 posted on 03/17/2012 6:14:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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St. Patrick WAS a slave for many years.


29 posted on 03/17/2012 8:43:10 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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Could have- might have- maybe- blah blah...In Ireland, they have, like we, a leftist iconoclastic movement that is firmly entrenched in academia. They've been pushing this St Patrick narrative, as well chipping away at the Celtic legacy of Ireland, asserting the Irish are no more or less Celtic in origin than any other W European country.

It's unclear to me why these (in lieu of a better description) almost ethnically suicidal elements exist; to what end? Maybe someone can offer up some explanation. They make me want to puke all over their loafers.

31 posted on 06/20/2012 7:02:27 PM PDT by Dysart
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no proof, of course.

And why does he say slaves, when the most recent archeology (at U Penn museum lecture) says that western areas of what is now England had trade with the Mediterranean up to and after Roman times, so they are rewriting the books on that period. link

33 posted on 06/21/2012 3:47:29 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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BULL$%#&@!!!

Once again, some atheistic, sophomoric (sophos = wise, moros = fool) idiot is promulgating an anti-western, anti-Christian personal opinion of a western hero based on his own personal opinion totally divorced from any real facts to substantiate them.

Sub-Roman Britain has provided very little written documentaiton of what was going on there. Absent any other legimitimate source of information on this subject aside from St. Patrick’s writings, I will take the Saint’s views over those of this revisionist academic.

We KNOW Mohammad WAS a slave trader, desert bandit and pedophile, but the verminous source of this scurrilous article would NEVER present THAT view of Mohammad in his writings!!!!


34 posted on 06/21/2012 5:43:13 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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