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To: Carry_Okie
Thomas Jefferson was not only up to his neck in the enlightenment, his loose constructionism and bankophobia has made him the darling of every anti-Jewish conspiracy theorist in the country for two hundred years.

Personally, I've long held that the "Bill of Rights" was a grave mistake. Alexander Hamilton said the same thing, though his reason was not the same as mine (and his logic a bit specious).

Only "Orthodox Judaism" is Judaism, though a Jew is a Jew whether he is observant or not (Halakhah determines "who is a Jew"). Unfortunately, the true rulers of Israel (Gedolei HaTorah) are unknown to the non-Jewish world and the Orthodox have allowed the "alphabet agencies" to become the "official" Jewish voice. These organizations have no Halakhic authority whatsoever and cannot be spokesmen for `Am Yisra'el.

As a Noachide, I do not feel free to critique traditional Judaism as you perhaps do, so I'm not going to tell the Rabbis that they've gotten anything wrong--though I've certainly been loud on the default Jewish position of internal fundamentalism and external liberalism.

When I say Antelman is a bit "out there," I am referring to some extremely controversial positions he holds with regard to traditional Jewish practice, not to any conspiracy theories. He believes the 'Af-Beri passage in the prayer for rain recited on Shemini `Atzeret and the much loved Unetanneh Toqef prayer recited on the High Holy Days are actually heretical and should be suppressed. I'm not touchin' that with a ten foot pole.

As a Noachide, I am also leery of any conspiracy theory that implies that there is a "gxd of this world" separate from HaShem ("The Devil") who runs this world until G-d "comes back." HaSatan is simply an angel of G-d doing his job, HaShem is in total, absolute, sole control (with no metaphysical enemy or evil counterpart), and "Lucifer" as a "fallen angel" is a chr*stian myth. The fact that there may be powerful people who believe in Lucifer and expect him to "enlighten" them doesn't change a thing.

50 posted on 03/13/2012 7:42:43 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thank you for your post.

Personally, I've long held that the "Bill of Rights" was a grave mistake.

It gave too much power to the courts to decide what was or was not a "right."

Alexander Hamilton said the same thing, though his reason was not the same as mine (and his logic a bit specious).

Hamilton was the king of specious logic in service to ruse.

As a Noachide, I do not feel free to critique traditional Judaism as you perhaps do, so I'm not going to tell the Rabbis that they've gotten anything wrong-

Please hear me on this: The rulings in Tractate Shvi'it were clearly under duress. Now that Israel is in the land, they should be reconsidered.

Here is a linguist's review of Shemitta (the only one who would write it down). The book has been reviewed by several Orthodox rabbis, including an Orthodox Shemitta law expert in Israel (one of the few who speaks English). He told me that it was "amazing" and "there is nothing wrong with it" but that's a far cry from getting him to put it in writing. He promised to get it to bar Ilan University, but the rabbi he was considering has taken ill. There has been no progress since.

-though I've certainly been loud on the default Jewish position of internal fundamentalism and external liberalism.

I wish there were more like this guy.

When I say Antelman is a bit "out there," I am referring to some extremely controversial positions he holds with regard to traditional Jewish practice, not to any conspiracy theories.

I think his citations to Hitler being the progeny of a Rothschild by raping a scullery maid on Tisha b'Av and others like it were, (although certainly conceivable) a bit thin by way of evidence. Interesting no less.

HaSatan is simply an angel of G-d doing his job, HaShem is in total, absolute, sole control (with no metaphysical enemy or evil counterpart), and "Lucifer" as a "fallen angel" is a chr*stian myth. The fact that there may be powerful people who believe in Lucifer and expect him to "enlighten" them doesn't change a thing.

Given Genesis 21 I shouldn't expect any other answer, nor am I looking for one. To me, haSatan is a fallen angel who witlessly does G_d's intent but is eventually punished for his attempted usurpation. In any event, if you do respect the teaching of Hillel, then you might be interested to find there is confirmation of my hypothesis on the Sabbath Year in Matthew 25. THAT would indicate that the real meaning and import of Exodus 23:11 was known to the rabbis of that time, but that it would have been suicidal to put it in writing.

Some things just don't seem to change. :-)

51 posted on 03/14/2012 9:42:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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